Windproof under-layer

[-Cappo-]

Years ago I had a windproof underlayer jacket, which I used under my vented leathers on a cool morning, etc, to keep the wind out. It was literally as thin as a fag paper, and rolled up into a pouch the size of a mars bar. I think it was made by a well-known brand (at least, well-known back then).

It has long since decided to find a new life somewhere else so I need a replacement. Can anyone recall what it might have been? To be clear, I DON'T want a thermal layer, or a particularly waterproof layer, just something extremely thin, lightweight and completely windproof.

[GriffoDP]

Hmm I'm using a Klim Zephyr at the moment, but that doesn't squash down so nicely as the thing you mention.

Someone somewhere mentioned a Montane Featherlite thing, but tbh that looks to end up similar to my Klim above.

[KTMsm]

I've always used a lightweight waterproof - gets a bit sweaty though

[Tribal Chestnut]

My new textile jacket does not have a liner, so I ordered this for layering in winter and for chilly mornings, big trips with variable temps, etc:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

Arrived yesterday and I’m not too sure when I will get to try it, but the reviews were all pretty solid and my first impressions are good.

[-Cappo-]

KTMsm said:

I've always used a lightweight waterproof - gets a bit sweaty though

That was where my previous jacket scored - breathable,so less sweaty.

Tribal Chestnut said:

My new textile jacket does not have a liner, so I ordered this for layering in winter and for chilly mornings, big trips with variable temps, etc:

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

Arrived yesterday and I’m not too sure when I will get to try it, but the reviews were all pretty solid and my first impressions are good.

I may end up with something like that but it does say thermal and for winter.

Since I posted, a mate has suggested that the thing I (we) had was made by Edz, which I think is right. Unfortunately it's not on their website any more so probably discontinued.

[Tribal Chestnut]

This is it folded up, not as tiny as you might be after, but not too bulky.

It is a layer of wind stop type fabric, with a pile/fleece reverse side to it. There is no actual insulating layer sandwiched between the two that i can feel.

[Krikkit]

Looks like they do a long-sleeve version too: https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

and trousers: https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

[Cylon2007]

Definitely sounds like the EDZ base layer (percatech I think) I still have one that I got free with a magazine subscription (shows how long ago) I still use in in fact did a couple of weeks ago under my vented jacket. Great bit of kit that I had come to realise if I ever damaged it / lost it I wouldn't ba able to replace.

[Triaguar]

Knox....'Cold Killer' Range

[benjipeg]

i use my cycling gilet, gore windstopper! its very packable and very effective

[cannedheat]

Look at some of the golf or trail running windbreaks - I have a Peak Performance one I use on my bike, it’s feather light and stuffs into its chest pocket and is about the size of a coke can.

Like this: https://runcompany.co.uk/products/mens-zeroweight-...

Edited by cannedheat on Wednesday 14th June 11:50

[sparkypups]

-Cappo- said:

Years ago I had a windproof underlayer jacket, which I used under my vented leathers on a cool morning, etc, to keep the wind out. It was literally as thin as a fag paper, and rolled up into a pouch the size of a mars bar. I think it was made by a well-known brand (at least, well-known back then).

It has long since decided to find a new life somewhere else so I need a replacement. Can anyone recall what it might have been? To be clear, I DON'T want a thermal layer, or a particularly waterproof layer, just something extremely thin, lightweight and completely windproof.

Do what we used to -

Bin bag, use and dispose, does job for wind and is waterproof should there be a downpour

[bsidethecside]

I'd seen the Klim stuff on Motolegends, with a price tag to match the names just mentioned. I thought 'poke that' so got a windstopper at Mountain Warehouse that's really thin and compacts to just over the size of a tennis ball with a rubber band round it. The Mountain Warehouse sale never ends!

TBH, Outdoor shops are a good source of alternative bike-compatible gear - similar challenges with hot / cold / wet /wind. The watch-out is if using a fair bit, then you need to ensure breathability to avoid rocking up sweaty (also ensure it's not too long in the body as bike stuff is cut for sitting). The price will increase accordingly when going max breathable, but not to Motolegends spec unless you're really going for it.

[boyse7en]

benjipeg said:

i use my cycling gilet, gore windstopper! its very packable and very effective

Was going to suggest the same. Cycling windproofs pack down tiny to go in a pocket.

Something like https://www.altura.co.uk/mens-c1/clothing-c6/jacke...

[-Cappo-]

Thanks all, looks like the cycling option will be the way to go

[KTMsm]

This had me googling and the Held inner jacket liner thats windproof, waterproof and breathable looked pretty good to me £42 at SBS

Maybe too big / insulated for the OP but I'm tempted

[paulrockliffe]

benjipeg said:

i use my cycling gilet, gore windstopper! its very packable and very effective

I was just going to say Gore Windstopper cyucling kit is absolutely incredible. I have a long-sleeved one that is so un-sweaty that I can wear it as sun protection when it's hot when climbing under a t-shirt and does such a good job of keeping the wind out that it's pretty much stopped me getting cold on long descents. I think the temperature range on a pedal bike will be more - hot sweaty slow work up the climbs, vs high-wind, low effort on the descents, so I guess perfect of motorbikes.

[66mpg]

Also consider Alpkit Arro. Available as a jacket or a gilet in men’s and women’s sizes. A men’s medium weighs 110g, packs away into its own pocket, costs £49.99. The vest weighs 85g, costs £37.99.