Exhaust swap - Easy as it looks?

Exhaust swap - Easy as it looks?

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Sycamore

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1,912 posts

124 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Howdy

My (first) bike has been sat around for a while, but having passed my test not long back and finally getting round to sorting the bike, it's clear the silly 'Black Widow' exhaust is just far too loud, especially when first starting up from cold. If I intend to stay on good terms with my neighbours and not become known as 'that stupid young tt with the stupid loud bike", then the exhaust has got to go biggrin

To switch it out - Is it as simple as unbolting the end can and bracket, and dropping a different end can in its' place? I don't have to replace anything else?...
It seems suspiciously simple biggrin

Need to add some new pegs to my shopping list too - The rubber has worn through on both sides.

Cheers


myvision

1,973 posts

142 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Is the db killer fitted in it my Black widow exhaust isn't obnoxiously loud?

the cueball

1,256 posts

61 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Yes, it's as easy as undoing a few bolts and putting the replacement on...

Except when it's not.. and you get broken studs, rounded bolts and other nightmares..

Then you're in the pits of hell....

Enjoy!


Hungrymc

6,830 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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As myvision says - decibel killers are pretty effective. Unless you want to change, then go ahead. But if you want to quieten it, a DB killer is worth a look. There are some proper cheap and nasty generic ones, or you can often get one specific to your end can.

If it is a change, yes its pretty easy, may need a link pipe to match the new can to the old exhaust (or the new can may come with one).

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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the cueball said:
Yes, it's as easy as undoing a few bolts and putting the replacement on...

Except when it's not.. and you get broken studs, rounded bolts and other nightmares..

Then you're in the pits of hell....

Enjoy!
This guy has experience. biggrin




catso

14,840 posts

273 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Easy yes but, does the fuelling need altering once swapped?

I ask because, at least with Ducatis, it is always advised that a race can needs a different fuel map (or carb jetting) otherwise it'll run too lean. If that's the case and it was altered when the can was fitted then it might be best to put it back to original? though it may not be critical...

Jazoli

9,197 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Just fit a DB killer, someone has hacked the OE exhaust to fit the aftermarket one as they are one piece.

Edited by Jazoli on Tuesday 23 May 15:49

Sycamore

Original Poster:

1,912 posts

124 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Cheers all - I'll take a look at the db killer also.
Seems there are lots of different types you can buy from black widow.

Hugo Stiglitz

38,038 posts

217 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Sycamore said:
Howdy

My (first) bike has been sat around for a while, but having passed my test not long back and finally getting round to sorting the bike, it's clear the silly 'Black Widow' exhaust is just far too loud, especially when first starting up from cold. If I intend to stay on good terms with my neighbours and not become known as 'that stupid young tt with the stupid loud bike", then the exhaust has got to go biggrin

To switch it out - Is it as simple as unbolting the end can and bracket, and dropping a different end can in its' place? I don't have to replace anything else?...
It seems suspiciously simple biggrin

Need to add some new pegs to my shopping list too - The rubber has worn through on both sides.

Cheers

It's stupidly easy to do. If the tail pipe end is 51mm compatible I might have it off you

Sycamore

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1,912 posts

124 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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Hmm I think it already has the dB killer installed.
Maybe I am just overly susceptible to noise hehe


Krikkit

26,921 posts

187 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2023
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It's very straight forward, crack on smile

ssray

1,133 posts

231 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Take the dB killer out and post a picture, you can get different types, some are just a Extra perforated tube other are more restrictive and will quiten it down

Sycamore

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1,912 posts

124 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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This is what's in at the moment.
Just looks like a perforated tube with a cap on the end to me....




LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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It’s very easy to swap just the end can. However, you need to make sure the new end can is the right diameter to fit onto your link pipe. You also need to make sure the new can has the right strap to fit to the exhaust hanger. If either of those are wrong, then your exhaust won’t fit, or won’t be secure and will break and fall off your bike. New exhausts will probably come with the correct strap if you tell them what bike ll be able to match the diameter of the pipe too. EBay specials, or secondhand are just stab in the dark unless you know what you’re doing.


catso said:
Easy yes but, does the fuelling need altering once swapped?

I ask because, at least with Ducatis, it is always advised that a race can needs a different fuel map (or carb jetting) otherwise it'll run too lean. If that's the case and it was altered when the can was fitted then it might be best to put it back to original? though it may not be critical...
Carb jetting? Welcome to 1995

LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Just to add, I’m guessing the bike has been decatted as the exhaust and link pipe look nothing like this, which I’m assuming is the standard set-up


Donbot

4,113 posts

133 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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Yeah, standard exhaust is one piece (or looks like it).

You can stick any end can on a straight through system and it is still going to be loud.

shirt

23,215 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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LF5335 said:
Carb jetting? Welcome to 1995
Not sure about the whole range but it’s also true for 2V aircooled ducs. DP/termi kits come with a new ecu.

LF5335

7,311 posts

49 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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shirt said:
Not sure about the whole range but it’s also true for 2V aircooled ducs. DP/termi kits come with a new ecu.
I have no idea what any of that means. Pretty certain that as this is a Kawasaki ER6f that what Ducatis need is pretty irrelevant, as is the reference to carbs which died a death decades ago.

Krikkit

26,921 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th May 2023
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shirt said:
Not sure about the whole range but it’s also true for 2V aircooled ducs. DP/termi kits come with a new ecu.
Any FI bike which is de-catted should, in theory, be remapped. Whether they actually need it or not it an interesting question, often related to the exhaust length before the cat