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Lost Soul

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Saturday 20th May 2023
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Superpole is showing some interesting results, one or two not doing what they should be aiming for.
A few names didnt get through into Superpole either

Lost Soul

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Saturday 20th May 2023
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Some interesting results showing up in BSB and BSS

A500leroy

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124 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Would I be right thinking its been resurfaced due to Chrissy last year?

Lost Soul

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A500leroy said:
Would I be right thinking its been resurfaced due to Chrissy last year?
It has been resurfaced apparently and to give you an idea, the front row in Superpole were all under the lap record

Interesting first race and stewards investigating one particular incident.

Zarco

18,377 posts

215 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Which incident?

Iddon/A Irwin or O'Halloran/Hickman?

Felt sorry for Iddon as he was up near the front, but he did leave a gap. Racing incident in my book. Hickman looked fairly ruthless but didn't see the run up to the move, and O'Halloran had no pace.

Great to see Ryde get a result. He's often gone well at Donington.


Zarco

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215 months

Saturday 20th May 2023
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Junior Supersport was brilliant. Don't always bother watching this class, but well worth it this time.

Lost Soul

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Sunday 21st May 2023
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Zarco said:
Which incident?

Iddon/A Irwin or O'Halloran/Hickman?

Felt sorry for Iddon as he was up near the front, but he did leave a gap. Racing incident in my book. Hickman looked fairly ruthless but didn't see the run up to the move, and O'Halloran had no pace.

Great to see Ryde get a result. He's often gone well at Donington.
A Irwin into Iddon.
Yes there was a gap but how many times has Andy Irwin gone for a gap with way too much enthusiasm? I get he's a racer and if he isn't going to try and improve, then he should give it all up but as Whitham said during Superpole, Andy Irwin has two speeds, stopped or flat out and his impetuosity has cost 2 people a potential points scoring result.

Hickman does seem to have a somewhat rambunctious relationship with O'Halloran and he got docked 2 seconds for that move which dropped him to 13th i believe but the FHO beemers seemed to be struggling yesterday and O'Halloran is having a mare of a year but even so, was a good save to stay on and get back with the bike and more importantly himself intact.

Yep, Kyle Ryde needed that result yesterday and if he can do the double today puts him in good shape towards the top of the standings and he can build on it from there.

Zarco

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215 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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No action taken for the Iddon/Irwin incident. Good call.

Lost Soul

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Zarco said:
No action taken for the Iddon/Irwin incident. Good call.
What was that famous quote about F1 drivers?
If you no longer go for a gap, you are no longer a racing driver. And if you go for a gap that is no longer there, you are Pastor Maldonado hehe

Something similar springs to mind for Andy Irwin - though i'm sure Scott Redding would have something else to say - but yeah i guess a racing incident and Harrison managed to join in all by himself.

airsafari87

2,809 posts

188 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Zarco said:
No action taken for the Iddon/Irwin incident. Good call.
The right decision.

Iddon ran wide and any racer would have gone for the gap left behind. Iddon would also have expected someone to go for it as well.

LukeBrown66

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52 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Didn't see it, but no shock A Irwin is involved, bloke is a walking penalty magnet, I get why he goes for gaps, but it always seems to be him taking down others. Maybe why he flits form team to team regularly.

Lost Soul

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LukeBrown66 said:
Didn't see it, but no shock A Irwin is involved, bloke is a walking penalty magnet, I get why he goes for gaps, but it always seems to be him taking down others. Maybe why he flits form team to team regularly.
To be fair, Iddon ran wide at the Melbourne Loop and left the door open, Andy Irwin did what any racer would have done, and went for the sizeable gap then Iddon closed the door. Hardly his fault on this occasion, it was 50:50 this time.



airsafari87

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188 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Lost Soul said:
A Irwin into Iddon.
Yes there was a gap but how many times has Andy Irwin gone for a gap with way too much enthusiasm? I get he's a racer and if he isn't going to try and improve, then he should give it all up but as Whitham said during Superpole, Andy Irwin has two speeds, stopped or flat out and his impetuosity has cost 2 people a potential points scoring result.
What had made you change your thoughts on the incident since making this statement?

Lost Soul

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airsafari87 said:
Lost Soul said:
A Irwin into Iddon.
Yes there was a gap but how many times has Andy Irwin gone for a gap with way too much enthusiasm? I get he's a racer and if he isn't going to try and improve, then he should give it all up but as Whitham said during Superpole, Andy Irwin has two speeds, stopped or flat out and his impetuosity has cost 2 people a potential points scoring result.
What had made you change your thoughts on the incident since making this statement?
I still think he is impetuous and has a bit too much enthusiasm but my opinion doesn't detract from the fact it has been declared a racing incident. I get he is a racer, he wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't but sometimes his enthusiasm for getting to the front of the field costs other people but on this occasion, Race Control said 50:50 so i'll accept that.
Also, i was responding to the comments that because he was involved, it must therefore be his fault.

Edited by Lost Soul on Sunday 21st May 10:49

LukeBrown66

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52 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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The common denominator is him, he has got a lot better. He was downright dangerous in Supersport to be honest and I would not have wanted to go into a race with the guy!

But if it is a racing incident, so be it, but surely eventually something has to give with Irwin, his brother has calmed down massively in recent years after being a bit wild early on, but Andy has always been wild, this is not motocross where you can get away with that sort of stuff, you can put peoples lives at risk. He is one of those guys who you dread trying the roads, as he would not last 5 minutes.

rigga

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207 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Lost Soul said:
Zarco said:
No action taken for the Iddon/Irwin incident. Good call.
What was that famous quote about F1 drivers?
If you no longer go for a gap, you are no longer a racing driver. And if you go for a gap that is no longer there, you are Pastor Maldonado hehe

Something similar springs to mind for Andy Irwin - though i'm sure Scott Redding would have something else to say - but yeah i guess a racing incident and Harrison managed to join in all by himself.
I'm not sure, looking at the accident, Iddon got up waving his hand as steam looked to be rising from the bike, as if he got burned by hot coolant, so maybe there was coolant lost and Dean ran over that at full lean..... Hard to say for sure.

Lost Soul

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Sunday 21st May 2023
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rigga said:
Lost Soul said:
Zarco said:
No action taken for the Iddon/Irwin incident. Good call.
What was that famous quote about F1 drivers?
If you no longer go for a gap, you are no longer a racing driver. And if you go for a gap that is no longer there, you are Pastor Maldonado hehe

Something similar springs to mind for Andy Irwin - though i'm sure Scott Redding would have something else to say - but yeah i guess a racing incident and Harrison managed to join in all by himself.
I'm not sure, looking at the accident, Iddon got up waving his hand as steam looked to be rising from the bike, as if he got burned by hot coolant, so maybe there was coolant lost and Dean ran over that at full lean..... Hard to say for sure.
Sorry, i should have clarified, i meant Harrison wasn’t part of the original incident but yeah i saw the steam/smoke so you could well be right.

Lost Soul

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Sunday 21st May 2023
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Wow! This race is all change now with a safety car.

Odds on the local man to win from the restart.

Lost Soul

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Sunday 21st May 2023
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Safety car has really mixed things up, come on boys, this is fantastic racing!

Well that all was unexpected

Edited by Lost Soul on Sunday 21st May 13:48

GiantEnemyCrab

7,709 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Irwin again