Steering stop missing

Steering stop missing

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Biker9090

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1,046 posts

43 months

Saturday 4th March 2023
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I've realised after seeing an older CZ125 that mine seems to have the flange (1/2" square piece of metal) missing from the bottom of the headstock on the frame.

Oddly, the two tabs either side on the lower fork clamps/triple tree are still there. The bars do turn very far but the tabs contact the frame before they can get any further.

Is this going to cause me arseache at MOT time? If it is is it a case of having someone weld a bit of metal on? Whats strange is that there is absolutely zero evidence of it ever being there in the first place. I'm only going off of other older models.

The frame is in the process of being painted with two part epoxy hence the incredibly rough finish at the moment!

SS427 Camaro

6,504 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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Looks to me that the lock stop has been broken off of the frame. Can you get a look @ another bike of your model year ?

Biker9090

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1,046 posts

43 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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Have finally been able to find one. I can't understand why mine doesn't have missing paint etc though?

DirtyHarley

404 posts

79 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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On yours it looks like its been smoothed down somewhat and repainted. Technically an MOT failure I believe but if nothing bashes and the steering moves lock to lock clearly then you'll probably get away with it.
Had similiar on an old Harley - didn't ever have issues and flew through MOTs with ease until I replaced the 3inch riser with stock handlebars and then it clashed with the tank on full lock - was remedied by tapping and welding a bolt head into place.

Biker9090

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1,046 posts

43 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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DirtyHarley said:
On yours it looks like its been smoothed down somewhat and repainted. Technically an MOT failure I believe but if nothing bashes and the steering moves lock to lock clearly then you'll probably get away with it.
Had similiar on an old Harley - didn't ever have issues and flew through MOTs with ease until I replaced the 3inch riser with stock handlebars and then it clashed with the tank on full lock - was remedied by tapping and welding a bolt head into place.
The paint that's in that area matches the rest of it though. The other colour is the new coat I was roughly putting on as a trial. Just looks like it was never there to begin with!

HyperFelony

14 posts

20 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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Given the age of the bike, I assume you've not owned the bike from new, If that is indeed the case, I'd say it's more likely than not that it's been damaged at some point in its life, dressed back and repainted.






gareth_r

5,921 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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DirtyHarley said:
On yours it looks like its been smoothed down somewhat and repainted. Technically an MOT failure I believe but if nothing bashes and the steering moves lock to lock clearly then you'll probably get away with it.
Had similar on an old Harley - didn't ever have issues and flew through MOTs with ease until I replaced the 3inch riser with stock handlebars and then it clashed with the tank on full lock - was remedied by tapping and welding a bolt head into place.
I can find nothing specific in the MOT manual >> www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-moto...

In the Steering section, "Handlebar fouling on the fuel tank or bodywork on full lock" is a "major" defect in Steering Operation.

As is "Steering linkage fouling any part of the motorcycle", but there is a separate section for Steering linkage condition which is obviously aimed at, for example, hub-centre steering, so I don't think conventional forks would count as a steering linkage.

Nothing about steering stops anywhere, as far as I can see.



sclayto2

969 posts

215 months

Monday 6th March 2023
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Hey OP: sorry to intrude on this thread, but have a question.

What if the defect is there from the day it was built?

My MV will trap and hurt your thumbs, on the body work, when on full lock. But it is built "correctly", and everything is bolted together properly as it left the factory.

I had an issue with an MOT, was given an spanner and had to move them so they could be retested. But this involved removing the clip-on retaining pins (on the top yoke) from their securing slot,

Do I just have to find a friendly MOT station, or is there something akin to an argument "that they all do that?"

gareth_r said:
I can find nothing specific in the MOT manual >> www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-moto...

In the Steering section, "Handlebar fouling on the fuel tank or bodywork on full lock" is a "major" defect in Steering Operation.

As is "Steering linkage fouling any part of the motorcycle", but there is a separate section for Steering linkage condition which is obviously aimed at, for example, hub-centre steering, so I don't think conventional forks would count as a steering linkage.

Nothing about steering stops anywhere, as far as I can see.