Gachaco battery swap service - Tokyo

Gachaco battery swap service - Tokyo

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mersontheperson

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716 posts

171 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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I read a time back about the big 4 Japanese manufacturers working together for a swappable universal battery to power their bikes.
Now a service has been launched with battery vending machine (not a surprise) in 18 places around Tokyo. Just pull-up swap your depleted battery for a full one and ride off again.
What a great initiative, although I imagine in the UK where theft and vandalism seems to be the major pastime for many people, it just wouldn’t work

trickywoo

12,214 posts

236 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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mersontheperson said:
What a great initiative, although I imagine in the UK where theft and vandalism seems to be the major pastime for many people, it just wouldn’t work
Yup. Wouldn't be long before the 'depleted' battery was depleted because 90% of its components had been sold from scrap prior to presentation for a swap.

Its admirable that it may work in Japan but over here it would just make Albanian gangsters even better off.

Bodo

12,405 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th October 2022
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The good thing about exchangeable batteries is that not a lot of capacity (=range) has to be designed into the bike. This of course only works when the network of stations is close enough. Bikes will be lighter and cheaper, and they don't have to be parked close to a charger - just take the battery indoor and charge it where the most convenient mains outlet is (if no swap station is used).

The downside is that small Li batteries that can still be handled <10kg will not have enough power for a satisfying motorcycle experience, even if three are combined. Ie. they will only be useful for commuting with small bikes <90km/h.

For now with Li technology, batteries that give enjoyable motorcycle power have to be heavy (50...150kg) and irremovable. They will give a real world range of 100...250km and can be charged with up to 400km/h, but this requires extra weight in chargers or dependency on CCS charging.


poo at Paul's

14,314 posts

181 months

Sunday 30th October 2022
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mersontheperson said:
I read a time back about the big 4 Japanese manufacturers working together for a swappable universal battery to power their bikes.
Now a service has been launched with battery vending machine (not a surprise) in 18 places around Tokyo. Just pull-up swap your depleted battery for a full one and ride off again.
What a great initiative, although I imagine in the UK where theft and vandalism seems to be the major pastime for many people, it just wouldn’t work
Depleted batteries on a motorbike? What, the regulator is knackered?