E10/E5 carb bikes
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All the carburettor O rings, the tips of the float needles, the slide diaphragms.
But Honda have used stuff that's ok with E10 since 93 MY: https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/my-bike/E10-fu...
So you'll be fine. But don't use it, because it's s
t. Especially if you store your bike.
But Honda have used stuff that's ok with E10 since 93 MY: https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/my-bike/E10-fu...
So you'll be fine. But don't use it, because it's s
t. Especially if you store your bike.A500leroy said:
Now, im a bit of a spanner so in simple terms what would I need to change on a 90s bike so E10 aint an issue, is it just gaskets in the carb and fuel lines, or are there engine bits that wont be happy either?
What "issue" is it you're trying to avoid? As has been said most Hondas are ethanol save since mid-90s. Don't forget that the USA has had ethanol far longer than we have and therefore products that are sold around the world are most likely safe. It simply wasn't worth manufacturers making different carbs for Europe, USA etc.However, this issue we have as bikes (assuming no plastic tank which your Honda definitely doesn't have) is that ethanol absorbs water. This ethanol/water then seperates from the fuel and settles in the bottom of the tank if you leave your bikes to sit for long periods - which most of us do over winter. Obviously you don't want water filled carbs or the water rusting your tank. The easiest fix is to use E10 from spring for most of the year whilst riding regularly but as winter and your last ride approaches switch to Esso Supreme (in most areas it's E0 but has to be advertised as E5, but check for your area) for a few tanks and during your winter rides.
You'll see plenty of post of people blaming ethanol for their 40 year old fuel lines failing....but 40 year old fuel lines can fail regardless of fuel. There's a lot of scaremongering but if you're worried do some reading, all the information is out that but pick proper fources (VMCC, FBHVC etc.) rather than internet warriors.
bgunn said:
How much do they want and what are they doing?
£400UltraSonic Cleaning & Servicing
Ultrasonic cleaning uses cavitation bubbles induced by high frequency pressure (sound) waves to agitate a liquid. The agitation produces high forces on contaminants adhering to the internal fuel and air passages on carburettors. This action also penetrates any other blind holes, cracks, and recesses. The intention is to thoroughly remove all traces of contamination tightly adhering or embedded onto solid surfaces.
The prices quoted includes complete disassembly, ultrasonic cleaning and rebuilding back to factory settings. This includes checking and adjustment of the float heights and air/fuel mixtures screws. We can also supply and fit genuine, pattern or aftermarket rebuild kits. Including DynoJet upgrade kits and Ram-Air Filters.
A500leroy said:
E10 is a bit speradic in its availability round here.Im almost sure I dont have access to E0 ESSO.
Why be almost sure and not know? In under 60 seconds on the internet I got to this:Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps.
Source: https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol
I guess the vagueness of North Wales, North England might cause some uncertainty but Scotland, Devon and Cornwall are pretty well defined. And if you live in the South East, Midlands etc. it's really easy.
stang65 said:
A500leroy said:
E10 is a bit speradic in its availability round here.Im almost sure I dont have access to E0 ESSO.
Why be almost sure and not know? In under 60 seconds on the internet I got to this:Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is actually ethanol free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place these E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol, which is why we display them on our Synergy Supreme+ 99 pumps.
Source: https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol
I guess the vagueness of North Wales, North England might cause some uncertainty but Scotland, Devon and Cornwall are pretty well defined. And if you live in the South East, Midlands etc. it's really easy.
A500leroy said:
you think?
would i be better buying a rebuild kit and doing it myself? (never done one before)
Depends how comfortable you are, carbs are simple devices but you need to take care. would i be better buying a rebuild kit and doing it myself? (never done one before)
£400 for a strip and ultrasonic clean seems expensive to me.
DM me and I’ll see if I can help.
A500leroy said:
you think?
would i be better buying a rebuild kit and doing it myself? (never done one before)
For £400 on a CBR I'd want a new engine !would i be better buying a rebuild kit and doing it myself? (never done one before)
The vast majority of the time carbs just need cleaning, no great skill needed - I'm sure they will be guides on YouTube
Depending on your spare time / cash ratio depends whether you want to rebuild them whilst they're apart, in my experience cleaning does it 99.9% of the time - the vast majority of bikes stand around a lot
It's why I bought an injection version
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