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egor110

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17,242 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Umm not the best of days for Mc Cams team !

Zarco

18,387 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Ha! We're in sync today biggrin

airsafari87

2,812 posts

188 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I rider error and 1 racing incident.

Hicky’s move was robust, but personally I didn’t see a great deal wrong with it from the 1 camera angle that I’ve seen.

HughiusMaximus

703 posts

132 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I reckon there will be fisticuffs behind the garages later!

egor110

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17,242 posts

209 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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HughiusMaximus said:
I reckon there will be fisticuffs behind the garages later!
Fisticuffs at home between fay and higgs more like .

Fingers crossed ray keeps his head down and avoids the drama

Rick448

1,697 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Complete bks, Hicky was right to go for the move. Hayden’s appraisal was shocking IMO.

Higgs boson

1,102 posts

159 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Rick448 said:
Complete bks, Hicky was right to go for the move. Hayden’s appraisal was shocking IMO.
Agreed.

Zarco

18,387 posts

215 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Higgs boson said:
Rick448 said:
Complete bks, Hicky was right to go for the move. Hayden’s appraisal was shocking IMO.
Agreed.
Stewards didn't (never mind Hayden).

KurtFlew

417 posts

59 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Hicky was past him, OH would have seen him in his peripheral to stand the bike up enough to avoid the crash surely.

cherryowen

11,909 posts

210 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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I think O' Halloran has grounds to be aggrieved, for me.

Over the years watching BSB, Druids is not a passing opportunity. Hickman's move was started at a time when JOH was already committed to turning, and - rightly - not expecting a move on the inside of that particular corner. Having said that, it was out of character for Hickman to go for that and I agree with Whitam when he said Hicky is usually a hard but clean rider.


Orchardab

472 posts

132 months

Saturday 24th September 2022
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Looked like he was mostly passed, can’t see a problem with it.

Turn7

24,073 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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The move appears harsh, but if was mid season and not showdown time, it wouldnt have made the news tbh.

Hicky doesnt ride like that and never has.

I feel for 22, but, end of the day, its a racing incident in my view.

Turn7

24,073 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Also-JK running in BSB for the rest of season in testing mode.

Thats a combination that could upset people I think.

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Hickys pass was harsh but fair, he was past Jason and the O show could have picked the bike up and not hit him.

Conflict of interest at play here, and maybe Higgs didn't want to seem to be favouring FHO, so gave the result he did, but it's not good to be in charge of racing and be involved personally with a competing team.

trickywoo

12,214 posts

236 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Turn7 said:
Also-JK running in BSB for the rest of season in testing mode.

Thats a combination that could upset people I think.
Jack Kennedy?

He’s smart enough to stay out of the way and isn’t going to prove anything this year.

Gloves may be off in qualifying and I’m interested to see how he goes.

Rob 131 Sport

3,014 posts

58 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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cherryowen said:
I think O' Halloran has grounds to be aggrieved, for me.

Over the years watching BSB, Druids is not a passing opportunity. Hickman's move was started at a time when JOH was already committed to turning, and - rightly - not expecting a move on the inside of that particular corner. Having said that, it was out of character for Hickman to go for that and I agree with Whitam when he said Hicky is usually a hard but clean rider.
I’m on the fence with this one.

I agree that Druids on a big bike is not a natural passing place. On the 250’s back in the day it was a very popular passing spot.

However, Peter was mostly passed him when they hit and at the same time Jason would have been committed to the corner.

On a separate note can anyone beat Bradley Ray today. Tommy Bridewell is the most likely and maybe Leon Haslam.

I’m off there shortly and it should be a good days racing.

rigga

8,748 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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trickywoo said:
Turn7 said:
Also-JK running in BSB for the rest of season in testing mode.

Thats a combination that could upset people I think.
Jack Kennedy?

He’s smart enough to stay out of the way and isn’t going to prove anything this year.

Gloves may be off in qualifying and I’m interested to see how he goes.
It's tricky, on one hand it'll be good to see him for the last two rounds and see how he goes, but if he's not going to get stuck in, what's the point of being out there ?

Hayden's comment about Hicky and being involved with Jason annoyed me, if the showdown is all important, and no-one who is not involved should have the temerity to race with anyone who is, then just send out the top 8 for the last 3 rounds .

I'm sure the crowds would flock to see that .

A racer will always race, and often if they back off and not compete at their normal level, things then do go wrong.

egor110

Original Poster:

17,242 posts

209 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
I’m on the fence with this one.

I agree that Druids on a big bike is not a natural passing place. On the 250’s back in the day it was a very popular passing spot.

However, Peter was mostly passed him when they hit and at the same time Jason would have been committed to the corner.

On a separate note can anyone beat Bradley Ray today. Tommy Bridewell is the most likely and maybe Leon Haslam.

I’m off there shortly and it should be a good days racing.
But if you can make a move at druids work why wouldn't you ?

If Hickman made a pass and they both came together level with each other fair enough but Hickman made the move and was nicely in front .

If i was Hickman I'd be looking to take as many points as possible away from o'halloran today

Zarco

18,387 posts

215 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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Watching the on-boards I can see the gap. Fair enough.

I don't buy all this O'Halloran turned into the back of Hickman stuff. O'Halloran was already committed to the turn, Hickman came through so late and fast he didn't have time to react enough to avoid the collision. Yes it's a racing incident but it wasn't a clean pass.


Turn7

24,073 posts

227 months

Sunday 25th September 2022
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rigga said:
trickywoo said:
Turn7 said:
Also-JK running in BSB for the rest of season in testing mode.

Thats a combination that could upset people I think.
Jack Kennedy?

He’s smart enough to stay out of the way and isn’t going to prove anything this year.

Gloves may be off in qualifying and I’m interested to see how he goes.
It's tricky, on one hand it'll be good to see him for the last two rounds and see how he goes, but if he's not going to get stuck in, what's the point of being out there ?

Hayden's comment about Hicky and being involved with Jason annoyed me, if the showdown is all important, and no-one who is not involved should have the temerity to race with anyone who is, then just send out the top 8 for the last 3 rounds .

I'm sure the crowds would flock to see that .

A racer will always race, and often if they back off and not compete at their normal level, things then do go wrong.
My comment was meant as looking to 2023....I think it is a superb idea to get him out now as its basically the best form of testing for him and the team.
Im sure Jack will be sensible enough to keep out of the title fighters way anyway.