Fireblade out, 848 in?

Fireblade out, 848 in?

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bgunn

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1,447 posts

137 months

Thursday 22nd September 2022
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So my 'fleet' comprises of a 98 Fireblade that's pretty minty mint, standard apart from Maxton suspension front and back and generally fettled to behave exactly as it should, and a 2000 VFR 800 that's super low mileage, very neutral and nice to ride, and a pleasant thing to run about on.

My mind is telling me I fancy something a bit more 'exotic' and I've been pondering something like a Ducati 848 to replace the Blade. Things I love about the Blade is its practicality and relative comfort, and the fact that for a 24 year old it's put together really well and well engineered.

It does, of course, ride very well in the context of a late nineties bike, but I'm getting pangs for something a bit more exciting.. I'm handy enough to not be intimidated by looking after a Ducati, so that part of the consideration isn't an issue.

What do people think? Stupid idea? I've not ridden a Ducati - and plan to put that right soon by having a go on something - but would be interested to hear people's views/experiences.


BigFatNinja

45 posts

30 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Do both smile

rodericb

7,080 posts

132 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Ha ha I reckon the 98 Fireblade would be the more exotic of the two nowadays. 848 is a good bike.

bgunn

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1,447 posts

137 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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rodericb said:
Ha ha I reckon the 98 Fireblade would be the more exotic of the two nowadays. 848 is a good bike.
Hah, you might be right.

dibblecorse

6,943 posts

198 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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848 is a great bike but you won't be gaining a lot power wise, it won't be anywhere near as comfy, they are far more weighted onto the wrists than the Blade, they won't attract attention the way a nice Blade does, they are still in 'its a Ducati from a few generations ago' rather than a modern classic like your Blade.

I'd say to make the move worthwhile you need to go 1098 and at least get some shove to go with the looks .....

Not sure it will be game changing from an ownership perspective ..

A500leroy

5,478 posts

124 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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The Blade is an up and coming classic, you will kick yourself if you sell it, Id be looking at letting the VFR go..

Freakuk

3,383 posts

157 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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I think the 848 will have around 20bhp more over a '98 Blade, but I'm guessing it'll be the torque from the twin will be the big noticeable difference, and that lump of torque will be lower down in the revs.

Dibs is right that the 848 will be heavy on the wrists by comparison, it'll feel tiny by comparison also. If you could stretch to a 1098 then I think you'll really feel the difference as you'll be sat on a 160bhp rocketship with the same ergos as the 848.

Modern Ducati's don't have any major issues if maintained, so I wouldn't worry too much, belts every two years, desmo service probably every 7500 miles from memory.

It's a big twin and you'll probably try and wind it all the way up to the red line which will be a lot lower than your Blade, but max power won't be at the top of the revs, plus the clutch will be horrible by comparison.

bgunn

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1,447 posts

137 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Food for thought, I also think I’ve got to be careful and not go and buy a relatively ‘cheap’ example of any bike and expect it to be right.

I’ll look at a 1098 potentially, also. I guess ultimately I need to find a way of having a go to see if the ideas in my head match reality..

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

128 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Mrs FB just bought an 848 to replace her 748. The ergonomics are far more comfy on the 848 and tbh when I rode it last weekend I found it very comfortable.

I have a 90’s GSXR 750 with similar power to the 848, I can tell you the 848 would eat it alive and it more comfy than the slingshot. If you’re anywhere near Kent you are welcome to come have a sit on and poss cheeky ride ride the block to see what you think ?


bgunn

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Friday 23rd September 2022
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fastbikes76 said:
Mrs FB just bought an 848 to replace her 748. The ergonomics are far more comfy on the 848 and tbh when I rode it last weekend I found it very comfortable.

I have a 90’s GSXR 750 with similar power to the 848, I can tell you the 848 would eat it alive and it more comfy than the slingshot. If you’re anywhere near Kent you are welcome to come have a sit on and poss cheeky ride ride the block to see what you think ?

Looks lovely. I’m based in Hertfordshire so Kent isn’t too much of a schlep wink

fastbikes76

2,450 posts

128 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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bgunn said:
Looks lovely. I’m based in Hertfordshire so Kent isn’t too much of a schlep wink
About 90 miles give or take. If your ever down this way you’re welcome to pop over and check it out, have a brew and chat bikes etc cool

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

74 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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What colour’s the blade?

bgunn

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137 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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V1nce Fox said:
What colour’s the blade?
Candy orange/grey..

Darkslider

3,075 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Just so happens I was in my local bike shop yesterday and I sat on a 99 blade and an 848 Evo back to back. Was surprised at how uncomfortable the Duc was compared to the Honda, it just felt all wrong to me, mostly down to having such a wide tank I think.

They look absolutely sublime though, just be sure to sit on one or better still take a proper test ride first. I'm not necessarily going to discount the Ducatis from my list but I think I'll be asking for an extended test ride before committing to anything.

bgunn

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1,447 posts

137 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Interesting you say that, given the Blade has a famously wide tank!

I definitely won’t jump away from the Blade without a decent test - the real benefit of the Blade is it’s comfort, but given I have the VFR now for that, I’m considering something a little more focussed..

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

74 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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bgunn said:
V1nce Fox said:
What colour’s the blade?
Candy orange/grey..
I’d not be selling that.

bgunn

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1,447 posts

137 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Starting to get the impression that keeping the Blade (and supplementing it with something else) might be a better idea hehe

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

74 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Good, older blades are becoming less of a cheap bargain bike these days. Theyve turned the corner. If you’ve got a good one i’d hang onto it.

Mr Squarekins

1,158 posts

68 months

Friday 23rd September 2022
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Ducati looks lovely.

However, everytime I want one, I ride one, then I don't want one.


bgunn

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Friday 23rd September 2022
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V1nce Fox said:
Good, older blades are becoming less of a cheap bargain bike these days. Theyve turned the corner. If you’ve got a good one i’d hang onto it.
Yeah, I caught mine just before they started to take off. It's relatively high mileage (just crossed over to 40k) but these things are bullet proof, and it's been very well looked after so I didn't worry.

I've had more trouble with garage queens that have done bugger all mileage, and I don't feel so guilty just getting it out and enjoying it.

I did give it a thorough going over, valve clearances, cam chain/sprockets/tensioner blades, rebuilding the brakes as they were all fairly sticky, new head bearings, forks revalved and rebuilt by Maxton, and one of their RT10 rear shocks. Carbs were quite well worn - it had a Dynojet kit from almost brand new, and they used stainless needles then which wore badly, as well as wearing the needle jet holder badly oval so it ran as rich as a pig. Currently on standard jetting, with the standard can on it. I've got a period Akra full system that I think I'll stick on it, but it'll need rejetting, so enjoying it as standard for now.