Talk to me about gloves

[LosingGrip]

I've had to chuck my old winter gloves and need to get some more before I leave it too late.

I need them to be warm and waterproof (waterproof is the main criteria). I'm half tempted by heated gloves but had them before and they are a pain with all the wires etc. Plus expensive!

Budget is around £100 maybe up to £150. Anything to look at? Anything to avoid?

[Salted_Peanut]

I’ll offer two rules of thumb:

• 1. I highly recommend gloves with a laminated membrane because the liner can’t pull out. It means gloves with a Gore Grip or McFit waterproof membrane.
• 2. Regarding brands, you can’t go wrong with Held gloves.

Naturally, there are exceptions to every rule: the BKS All-season glove is exceptional

[LosingGrip]

Salted_Peanut said:

I’ll offer two rules of thumb:

• 1. I highly recommend gloves with a laminated membrane because the liner can’t pull out. It means gloves with a Gore Grip or McFit waterproof membrane.
• 2. Regarding brands, you can’t go wrong with Held gloves.

Naturally, there are exceptions to every rule: the BKS All-season glove is exceptional

Thanks! The liner coming out of my old ones were really annoying! I'll look at a laminated membrane.

Funny enough I was looking at BKS yesterday. Until I saw the price!

[bogie]

The problem I find is that anything really warm is like some thick ski mitts and I dont like wearing those. Heated gloves can be a faff.

Best combo has to be some 3 season waterproof gloves and then heated grips on the bike.

I have some revit goretex gloves that are plenty warm enough with heated grips on my faired bike, bought in the sale were under £100. Think they are original Stratos thats been replaced now, new version about £140

On my naked bike without heated grips I wear some silk liner gloves with them and they are ok for 60-90 mins at a time at NSL speeds

[LosingGrip]

I’ll have a look at the Revit Goretex as well.

Off topic Bogie, but are you on Torn?

[ReverendCounter]

Look for 'outdry' as another name for bonded waterproof liner gloves. 'Five' are supposed to be another good brand https://www.five-gloves.com/en/catalogue/?gcat=6-w...

[ReverendCounter]

Incidentally, wind deflecting hand guards give you that initial windproof barrier and the massively reduce the amount of water hitting your glove (a bit pointless if they've got lots of slots to let the air flow through).

I mean, if its one of those cold wet winter days - high humidity, cold - the ambient air flowing over/around the glove's going to contain a lot of moisture so eventually that's going to have its effect, but it takes a lot longer for this saturation of the outer layer to take place.

[bogie]

LosingGrip said:

I’ll have a look at the Revit Goretex as well.

Off topic Bogie, but are you on Torn?

nope, not me

[Salted_Peanut]

LosingGrip said:

Funny enough I was looking at BKS yesterday. Until I saw the price!

They are a massive initial outlay! However, black-k1 can say more about BKS’s value for money over the long-term as he’s worn their leathers for decades.

The BKS gloves mentioned above are just under £150. It’s a premium price for gloves, but Bennetts gave the non-waterproof version a glowing review:

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...

[LosingGrip]

Salted_Peanut said:

They are a massive initial outlay! However, black-k1 can say more about BKS’s value for money over the long-term as he’s worn their leathers for decades.

The BKS gloves mentioned above are just under £150. It’s a premium price for gloves, but Bennetts gave the non-waterproof version a glowing review:

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...

No issues with the quality…they provide the leathers for the bikers at work. If/when I get the course I’ll be getting some as well. They’ve just started providing textiles as well which I like the idea more than leathers.

Talking of work I can try someone’s gloves on there and see if I like them .

[Golgarth]

hand guards for autumn then bar muffs for winter.

Failing that I find Triumph outlets often are the best thing to look for. I bought goretex ones from them a few years ago and they do not leak and are REALLY warm.

[Birky_41]

I asked the same years back and went down to two brands. After trying both on I went with gerbing

About a year back I replaced the wired ones with battery 2a ones that'll last 4 hours at full power or 5-6 on medium

Piginawig who might read this went on tour with us in April. One of the days was up in the mountains -2 degrees, snow, sleet and rain leading upto the top

I put mine on high power (medium is normally more than enough) and had toasty dry hands

He ran the other brand I think it's called Kreis and wasn't so good

That day 100% sold me that the gloves I got are the best winter/wet gloves I've ever owned

[black-k1]

I wear BKS Race gloves https://www.bksleather.co.uk/products/accessories/... in the summer but I use Held Gore-Tex gloves in the spring/autumn. I don't ride in the winter.

I like my gloves to be gauntlet style, leather and with enough feel that I can feel the switch gear etc. I have heated grips so can use unlined gloves in colder conditions.

[Bumblebee7]

I'll just add that I've had a really terrible experience of Rukka Gore-Tex gloves, had 4 pairs (3 under warranty). Very comfortable but not waterproof and delaminated very quickly.

[LookAtMyCat]

If you're riding in actual cold, only heated gloves will do the job. Yes they're a faff, but it makes all year round riding totally viable. I've got the gerbing heated jacket and the gloves that plug into the jacket. Game changing stuff.

[LosingGrip]

Bumblebee7 said:

I'll just add that I've had a really terrible experience of Rukka Gore-Tex gloves, had 4 pairs (3 under warranty). Very comfortable but not waterproof and delaminated very quickly.

That’s a shame. The rest of my kit is Rukka and I’m very impressed by it. Ten years in December and still worn daily and waterproof!

[Birky_41]

LookAtMyCat said:

If you're riding in actual cold, only heated gloves will do the job. Yes they're a faff, but it makes all year round riding totally viable. I've got the gerbing heated jacket and the gloves that plug into the jacket. Game changing stuff.

Exactly as I said on my post. When I asked the same on here few years back had people say the same

Now everything has gone battery and although limited to approx 4-5 hours on a higher heat its long enough for me

I've ridden sub zero temps roads frosty and hands almost sweating from my Gerbing

[A993LAD]

Bumblebee7 said:

I'll just add that I've had a really terrible experience of Rukka Gore-Tex gloves, had 4 pairs (3 under warranty). Very comfortable but not waterproof and delaminated very quickly.

Same for me. Always bought Rukka gear but the gloves are pretty poor and the liner annoyingly pulls away when my hands get sweaty. They were quite expensive but I threw them away in the end.

[SBDJ]

Birky_41 said:

After trying both on I went with gerbing
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He ran the other brand I think it's called Kreis and wasn't so good

Agreed, I've tried three brands of heated gloves. Gerbing, Keis and another that I can't remember. The Gerbing are great winter gloves, even without the heating on. In comparison the Keis were not as warm and started to pull apart at the seams. The other brand were just terrible; wish I could remember their name.

[spareparts]

If you have Goretex gloves, don't use them with heated grips if you want them to be waterproof.
Goretex works by pushing/allowing water vapour to move from the hot to the cold. Normally, the body warmth will push vapour from the inside to the out and prevent water from entering the glove making them waterproof. If you make the outside temp of the glove hotter than the inside, the reverse will happen. Lots of people complain that Goretex gloves aren't waterproof... when the problem was that they were using them with heated grips. If you want waterproof and hot hands, heated gloves are the way to go.