Uneven tyre wear

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underwhelmist

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1,880 posts

140 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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I’ve just noticed my front tyre is wearing more on the right than the left. Bike is used for a 50 mile round trip commute daily, pressure is 36psi which I check regularly. Do you think this indicates a problem with my suspension (i could probably do with changing the fork oil) or geometry? Thanks in advance!

tafkattn

166 posts

27 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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How many miles on the tyre?

It's not unusual to see more wear on the right side due to road camber (i.e. we ride on the left and road crowns toward the centre line).

Is 36psi the recommended for your bike? Would be worth checking your forks are aligned.


andy tims

5,593 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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tafkattn said:
It's not unusual to see more wear on the right side due to road camber (i.e. we ride on the left and road crowns toward the centre line).
Yes, but not that much. Looks extreme to me.

mikey_b

2,066 posts

51 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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If you do a lot of roundabouts, that will do it too. Especially if you're the type to lap each one several times, trying to get your knee down biggrin

SteveKTMer

977 posts

37 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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I've seen this question asked several times in the past and the same answers as above given as possible reasons but I don't think that's the full story. The amount of wear that's showing would take a lot of roundabouts or off camber roads, 1000s of miles to cause that amount of wear.

I think it's either defective tyre (did the last tyre do the same thing ?) or possibly suspension issue. Or do you ride round a lot of roundabouts every day ?

My tyres have never worn unevenly like that, the front is always even, apart from a Metzeler Roadtec 01 which wore like a 50p piece for some reason but the Michelin that replaced it wore perfectly.

Onelastattempt

434 posts

53 months

Sunday 28th August 2022
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I have always thought that it can be caused by the front wheel and rear wheel being out of line to each other, so that the front tyre is slightly scrubbing on one side when the bike is going in a straight line.
I could be talking total rubbish though.

carinaman

21,870 posts

178 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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Interesting.

Do MCN have an Agony Uncle column for such questions?

SteveKTMer

977 posts

37 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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carinaman said:
Interesting.

Do MCN have an Agony Uncle column for such questions?
Their answer would be to switch to whichever manufacturer was paying them or "sponsoring" them that month.

spoodler

2,180 posts

161 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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Recently noticed a similar thing on t'other half's front tyre. Her's is a thirty five year old Harley with a rubber mounted engine/trans. I found that the front engine mount had started to collapse, meaning the whole driveline was out of alignment - when the rear wheel was vertical, the front was out of vertical by a few degrees.. Obviously, this wouldn't apply to a non-rubber mount bike, but many other faults could cause similar.
One sportsbike I owned years back used to "blister" the offside edge of the front tyre - I put that down to over enthusiastic roundabouts, I rarely leant it as far to the left.

underwhelmist

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140 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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Thanks for the suggestions. The tyre was on the bike when I bought it so I’ve no idea how many miles are in it. I’ve dine about 4000 so it hasn’t done too badly but Michelin PRs (like wot this is) last longer than that in my experience.

I’ll get the tyre changed, check alignment and replace the fork oil and see how I go from there.

tafkattn

166 posts

27 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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What bike is it and how many miles in total? What makes you think the fork oil needs doing? Not saying you shouldn't do it, but if it's a relatively new bike it may not need doing.

I'd start by getting the tyre replaced and checking forks and rear wheel are all aligned, then see how it goes. Replacing fork oil isn't a massive job but it can be a bit of a pain in the balls.

underwhelmist

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1,880 posts

140 months

Monday 29th August 2022
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It’s a 1996 RF900 so definitely not a relatively new bike! I’d been meaning to renew fork oil and treat it to a new shock for a while even before I noticed the tyre wear, the suspension is pretty obviously worn out. Bike mileage is 40k.

bongtom

2,018 posts

89 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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Do a simple alignment check with string and side measurement check to see it everything lines up. (Google how)
It could be a wheel bearing issue.

fred bloggs

1,343 posts

206 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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SteveKTMer said:
I've seen this question asked several times in the past and the same answers as above given as possible reasons but I don't think that's the full story. The amount of wear that's showing would take a lot of roundabouts or off camber roads, 1000s of miles to cause that amount of wear.

I think it's either defective tyre (did the last tyre do the same thing ?) or possibly suspension issue. Or do you ride round a lot of roundabouts every day ?

My tyres have never worn unevenly like that, the front is always even, apart from a Metzeler Roadtec 01 which wore like a 50p piece for some reason but the Michelin that replaced it wore perfectly.
Every front tyre I have ever seen in wears like that.

SteveKTMer

977 posts

37 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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fred bloggs said:
SteveKTMer said:
I've seen this question asked several times in the past and the same answers as above given as possible reasons but I don't think that's the full story. The amount of wear that's showing would take a lot of roundabouts or off camber roads, 1000s of miles to cause that amount of wear.

I think it's either defective tyre (did the last tyre do the same thing ?) or possibly suspension issue. Or do you ride round a lot of roundabouts every day ?

My tyres have never worn unevenly like that, the front is always even, apart from a Metzeler Roadtec 01 which wore like a 50p piece for some reason but the Michelin that replaced it wore perfectly.
Every front tyre I have ever seen in wears like that.
Very slightly unevenly or very much unevenly, like the example above ?

fred bloggs

1,343 posts

206 months

Tuesday 30th August 2022
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SteveKTMer said:
Very slightly unevenly or very much unevenly, like the example above ?
Some more than others, its pronounced if run with low pressure.
I don't know how many front tyres I've looked at, but its a lot in 20 years of MOT testing bikes.

Its a combination of the camber ,and the fact an awful lot of bikes are not 100% aligned, from factory.

The example above is perfectly normal for a worn front tyre.

Edited by fred bloggs on Tuesday 30th August 16:10

underwhelmist

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1,880 posts

140 months

Wednesday 31st August 2022
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The amount of wear was even more apparent after I got the wheel out, there's a section of the profile which was flat. Like when your rear tyre gets squared off, but this was off to the right hand side.

Happily I've now got a new tyre fitted, unhappily the threads on the wheel spindle seem to be buggered so I can't get the spindle back in - it screws in so far then starts needing a lot of force. I don't want to knacker the thread in the fork leg (I hope I haven't already) so I've bought a SH spindle in the hope that that one will go in.

I'm commuting by train until it arrives because my car is also in for a new radiator. Should have waited until the car was back before messing with the bike!

Jazoli

9,197 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Errrrr....you have undone the spindle pinch bolt(s)?

Just checking biggrin

underwhelmist

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140 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Yep biggrin

underwhelmist

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140 months

Sunday 11th September 2022
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The new spindle from the breakers was in much better condition than the original one but it still wouldn't screw in, so I cut some slots in the original spindle to make a chaser - after using this to clean up the threads in the fork leg it all went back together no problem.

I've just been out for a test run and the combination of new tyre and new fork oil is a big improvement, I just have to do something about the rear shock now. Thanks all for the advice.