Hackney parking proposals: Protest ride 11th September.
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Posting on behalf of a friend.
“following from my email abut Hackney's insane parking charges, Save London Motorcycling and MAG are organising a joint protest ride on 11th September against Hackney's parking proposals. You can find out more on the fb invite page:
https://www.facebook.com/events/624203142336307
Or on the Save London Motorcycling website: https://sites.google.com/view/savelondonmotorcycli...
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“following from my email abut Hackney's insane parking charges, Save London Motorcycling and MAG are organising a joint protest ride on 11th September against Hackney's parking proposals. You can find out more on the fb invite page:
https://www.facebook.com/events/624203142336307
Or on the Save London Motorcycling website: https://sites.google.com/view/savelondonmotorcycli...
“
These types of protests are pointless. No one cares about what bikers think and causing traffic issues and noise just pisses the other road users off.
Most people won't even know why they are there.
It's as bad as a go slow on the M25.
They also should have picked a different date as the inevitable "9/11" media hype will take precedence as it does every year. "What were you doing? etc.
The council are doing this to discourage commuting because they say it blocks space for businesses and locals. Bikers who use their bikes for business purposes don't normally park in a space for hours on end so it will not effect them.
Eventually all of London will be the same. It's the sign of the times.
Most people won't even know why they are there.
It's as bad as a go slow on the M25.
They also should have picked a different date as the inevitable "9/11" media hype will take precedence as it does every year. "What were you doing? etc.
The council are doing this to discourage commuting because they say it blocks space for businesses and locals. Bikers who use their bikes for business purposes don't normally park in a space for hours on end so it will not effect them.
Eventually all of London will be the same. It's the sign of the times.
Edited by bongtom on Wednesday 17th August 04:13
It’s a group of people (locals and businesses) responding to a council who hasn’t listened to reason or data - thus far.
If nothing else it is a visible sign that there is a number of people to whom this is important.
Action elsewhere in London such as Ealing helped to get rid of the LTN’s and in Westminster some time back limited charges for bike parking.
If nothing else it is a visible sign that there is a number of people to whom this is important.
Action elsewhere in London such as Ealing helped to get rid of the LTN’s and in Westminster some time back limited charges for bike parking.
Edited by five50 on Wednesday 17th August 13:25
Been rescheduled for 10/9.
Current info as follows:
Due to unforeseen circumstances we have been forced to change the date of our protest against Hackney's parking charges to Saturday 10th September. We will now meet at 12 midday at Downs Park Road E5 8JY.
We are very sorry for the change, but hope you can all still make it. We need a good showing. If enough people turn up, it will really put pressure on Hackney to listen to us.
This is a 'go slow' protest. If Hackney are going to charge us like cars, we're going to behave like them! So no filtering, or bunching up. Ride single file and take your time pulling away from the lights. We want to show them what it will look like if the thousands of bikes that ride through Hackney every day were replaced by cars.
Current info as follows:
Due to unforeseen circumstances we have been forced to change the date of our protest against Hackney's parking charges to Saturday 10th September. We will now meet at 12 midday at Downs Park Road E5 8JY.
We are very sorry for the change, but hope you can all still make it. We need a good showing. If enough people turn up, it will really put pressure on Hackney to listen to us.
This is a 'go slow' protest. If Hackney are going to charge us like cars, we're going to behave like them! So no filtering, or bunching up. Ride single file and take your time pulling away from the lights. We want to show them what it will look like if the thousands of bikes that ride through Hackney every day were replaced by cars.
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Take your time pulling away from lights and ride single file, act like the council?
Sorry I'm a biker and you lost any support from me there.
Why’s that?Sorry I'm a biker and you lost any support from me there.
Were you planning to attend then, prior to reading that?
It’s a shame if their method of protest puts potential attendees off….
Motorcycle riders are already treated poorly on the road. The majority of drivers won't have a clue what it's about before, during or after. They'll just see the hold up.
Further negativity.
Next time your filtering through heavy motorway/dual carriageway traffic into London it only takes one to block you back daily.
Further negativity.
Next time your filtering through heavy motorway/dual carriageway traffic into London it only takes one to block you back daily.
The go-slow type of protest has already been shown to work both here in the UK and in places like France. The question back would be – how do you suggest motorcyclists protest against the councils approach in a way that is legal and safe?
I’ve already written to the council and received what can best be described as a "the decision has already been made" brush off reply.
Knowing why a protest is happening is a different problem. A number of carefully placed placards may help with understanding.
This was a good blog post from a few years back. Since the article, pre-Euro3 bikes are subject to the ULEZ charge. One of the reasons I sold my GPZ900R although it was lovely. Over the past 2 years, it is crazy that so many main road arteries in London have been reduced to one lane for private vehicles... Park Lane northbound and the A501/Euston Road to name just two.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...
The situation is getting worse all the time. If bikes are charged the same as cars, I think that will be the death knell for many to bike at all and strong incentive for many to leave London altogether or seek jobs that allow them to permanently WFH.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-vie...
The situation is getting worse all the time. If bikes are charged the same as cars, I think that will be the death knell for many to bike at all and strong incentive for many to leave London altogether or seek jobs that allow them to permanently WFH.
Tribal Chestnut said:
Tribal Chestnut said:
I’ve reconsidered my position on this and am going to stick to stiffly worded letters. I’m sure they won’t be ignored….
Letter now posted.If you lot can all do the same, I’m sure we’ll hear within a week that the proposed charges have been abandoned.
That'll teach 'em!
Bump for this subject.
Text pasted from MAG London FB page:
SATURDAY 10th Sept AT 12 PM
Protest against Hackney M/C parking charges - Save London Motorcycling & London MAG joint demo
downs park road, Hackney, London E5 8JY
In autumn this year Hackney council plan to bring in parking charges for all motorcycles and scooters, including
• all motorcycles and scooters, petrol and electric, to be charged the same prices as cars
• solo motorcycle bays charged at up to £6 an hour
• banning commuting with 4 hour maximum stay limits in most bays
• permits up to £850 a year for residents, £1800 for businesses
These charges are based on dodgy data that massively misrepresents motorcycle emissions.
We are coming together to protest these charges and show Hackney and other London boroughs that they can't get away with it.
Text pasted from MAG London FB page:
SATURDAY 10th Sept AT 12 PM
Protest against Hackney M/C parking charges - Save London Motorcycling & London MAG joint demo
downs park road, Hackney, London E5 8JY
In autumn this year Hackney council plan to bring in parking charges for all motorcycles and scooters, including
• all motorcycles and scooters, petrol and electric, to be charged the same prices as cars
• solo motorcycle bays charged at up to £6 an hour
• banning commuting with 4 hour maximum stay limits in most bays
• permits up to £850 a year for residents, £1800 for businesses
These charges are based on dodgy data that massively misrepresents motorcycle emissions.
We are coming together to protest these charges and show Hackney and other London boroughs that they can't get away with it.
black-k1 said:
Protests like that ensured there were no toll charges for bikes on the Dartford crossing so to say they are pointless is incorrect.
When did that happen, I must have missed that, or it is the last 10 years?Motorcyclist used to have to pay up until 2003 and I don't remember them ever saying they were going to reintroduce payment for motorcycles, and I used that crossing every day.
bongtom said:
black-k1 said:
Protests like that ensured there were no toll charges for bikes on the Dartford crossing so to say they are pointless is incorrect.
When did that happen, I must have missed that, or it is the last 10 years?Motorcyclist used to have to pay up until 2003 and I don't remember them ever saying they were going to reintroduce payment for motorcycles, and I used that crossing every day.
black-k1 said:
bongtom said:
black-k1 said:
Protests like that ensured there were no toll charges for bikes on the Dartford crossing so to say they are pointless is incorrect.
When did that happen, I must have missed that, or it is the last 10 years?Motorcyclist used to have to pay up until 2003 and I don't remember them ever saying they were going to reintroduce payment for motorcycles, and I used that crossing every day.
Turning up to the protest, on whichever new date it is on, is well advised.
Summary of the proposals, which are crazy:
https://www.change.org/p/stop-plans-for-new-motorc...
Will affect residents, people who work or travel there are people who deliver your takeaway.
Summary of the proposals, which are crazy:
https://www.change.org/p/stop-plans-for-new-motorc...
Will affect residents, people who work or travel there are people who deliver your takeaway.
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