Sat Nav vs phone issues
Discussion
For those that will add the obligatory "I don't need a sat nav" please feel free to ignore this thread.
On my last trip I was able to use my phone, the routes put together on MyRouteApp and Sygic (offline satnav) faultlessly to follow routes around the Dolomites - it was easy and I found Sygic really user friendly.
Four years on I cannot find a phone satnav app with offline maps that allows me to download pre-built routes (in .gpx or whatever format) and use them to navigate with. The closest I've found is Rever - a US based more off-road focused app. But they want me to buy the premium version before I can test it and see if it does genuinely work and based on what I've found out so far I just don't believe them.
Sygic appear to have blocked the app from loading any routes from outside their Sygic world. It will open a GPX but will ignore all waypoints and simply navigate from A to B instead.
MyRouteApp wants you to use their navigation tool; Sygic want you to use their route builder and most of the other systems are going down a similar route.
So I've bought a TomTom. f
king annoying having to bring another device along but at least it's tried and tested.
On my last trip I was able to use my phone, the routes put together on MyRouteApp and Sygic (offline satnav) faultlessly to follow routes around the Dolomites - it was easy and I found Sygic really user friendly.
Four years on I cannot find a phone satnav app with offline maps that allows me to download pre-built routes (in .gpx or whatever format) and use them to navigate with. The closest I've found is Rever - a US based more off-road focused app. But they want me to buy the premium version before I can test it and see if it does genuinely work and based on what I've found out so far I just don't believe them.
Sygic appear to have blocked the app from loading any routes from outside their Sygic world. It will open a GPX but will ignore all waypoints and simply navigate from A to B instead.
MyRouteApp wants you to use their navigation tool; Sygic want you to use their route builder and most of the other systems are going down a similar route.
So I've bought a TomTom. f
king annoying having to bring another device along but at least it's tried and tested.Have used kurviger to do this, the app was around £10).
This worked fine but the phone would overheat and shutdown.
So I bought a cheap tomtom as you can plan your route on kurviger.de (which is free) and then export fto a tomtom route file (turn by turn) and then import that into your tomtom (copy it on to a memory card and slot it in the tomtom which should then import it).
This worked fine but the phone would overheat and shutdown.
So I bought a cheap tomtom as you can plan your route on kurviger.de (which is free) and then export fto a tomtom route file (turn by turn) and then import that into your tomtom (copy it on to a memory card and slot it in the tomtom which should then import it).
SteelerSE said:
For those that will add the obligatory "I don't need a sat nav" please feel free to ignore this thread.
On my last trip I was able to use my phone, the routes put together on MyRouteApp and Sygic (offline satnav) faultlessly to follow routes around the Dolomites - it was easy and I found Sygic really user friendly.
Four years on I cannot find a phone satnav app with offline maps that allows me to download pre-built routes (in .gpx or whatever format) and use them to navigate with. The closest I've found is Rever - a US based more off-road focused app. But they want me to buy the premium version before I can test it and see if it does genuinely work and based on what I've found out so far I just don't believe them.
Sygic appear to have blocked the app from loading any routes from outside their Sygic world. It will open a GPX but will ignore all waypoints and simply navigate from A to B instead.
MyRouteApp wants you to use their navigation tool; Sygic want you to use their route builder and most of the other systems are going down a similar route.
So I've bought a TomTom. fking annoying having to bring another device along but at least it's tried and tested.
I create routes (Tracks actually, so it stays on the roads I choose) in myrouteapp & then use them in TomTom Go (mobile phone app).On my last trip I was able to use my phone, the routes put together on MyRouteApp and Sygic (offline satnav) faultlessly to follow routes around the Dolomites - it was easy and I found Sygic really user friendly.
Four years on I cannot find a phone satnav app with offline maps that allows me to download pre-built routes (in .gpx or whatever format) and use them to navigate with. The closest I've found is Rever - a US based more off-road focused app. But they want me to buy the premium version before I can test it and see if it does genuinely work and based on what I've found out so far I just don't believe them.
Sygic appear to have blocked the app from loading any routes from outside their Sygic world. It will open a GPX but will ignore all waypoints and simply navigate from A to B instead.
MyRouteApp wants you to use their navigation tool; Sygic want you to use their route builder and most of the other systems are going down a similar route.
So I've bought a TomTom. f
king annoying having to bring another device along but at least it's tried and tested.Works fine for the gpx routes created in myrouteapp.
Edited by vonhosen on Friday 13th May 16:44
I use TomTom on my iPhone on the bikes. I draw up routes on my iPad using mydrive.tomtom.com
I open the page and then tap the AA at the left hand end of the address bar and request the desktop website and log in with my TomTom credentials.
I can use the Plan Route option to make a route and sync it to all my other devices, which means the iPhone and the TomTom in my car.
At the bottom of the My Routes section is the option to import a .gpx. I can then share it to my devices, as above.
I could do it directly on the iPhone but it’s all a bit easier with the bigger screen on the iPad.
I open the page and then tap the AA at the left hand end of the address bar and request the desktop website and log in with my TomTom credentials.
I can use the Plan Route option to make a route and sync it to all my other devices, which means the iPhone and the TomTom in my car.
At the bottom of the My Routes section is the option to import a .gpx. I can then share it to my devices, as above.
I could do it directly on the iPhone but it’s all a bit easier with the bigger screen on the iPad.
I'd like to find something that works for proper route planning like that, but I've never found anything that guaranteed sticking to the route that I actually planned.
The 'best' I've managed is making up a route in Google Maps on the desktop, but placing 'waypoints' in particular places to ensure that that the automated routing algorithm puts the route along the roads I want to travel along. So - that means setting my start and end point, and then adding fixed locations (as 'extra destinations' (NOT just dragging the route on the map), so that the route is what I want.
Then export that to the phone and use it as the desired route for the navigation app. Because you've specified (for example) a destination actually half way down a small road, the navigation route planning algorithm 'should' take you on pretty much the same route as the desktop algorithm (it's not guaranteed, but it seems to work). You then either have to 'cancel' that destination when you arrive at it, so it makes sense to plan them at somewhere that looks like you can pull over to do so safely... OR - Google Nav will automatically cancel the waypoint after you've ignored it for a certain amount of time... BUT that second option comes and goes - sometimes it seems to work, sometimes it will try to get you back to that missed waypoint - it seems to change with each software version.
With Google maps you CAN do navigation without a 3G signal (obviously you DO need a GPS signal), because you can download the map-tiles (the graphics) before hand over 4G or wifi by going into the personal settings in the Google Map app (I can't remember exactly where it is, but you can download set areas I think the max is about 500x500 miles)
The 'best' I've managed is making up a route in Google Maps on the desktop, but placing 'waypoints' in particular places to ensure that that the automated routing algorithm puts the route along the roads I want to travel along. So - that means setting my start and end point, and then adding fixed locations (as 'extra destinations' (NOT just dragging the route on the map), so that the route is what I want.
Then export that to the phone and use it as the desired route for the navigation app. Because you've specified (for example) a destination actually half way down a small road, the navigation route planning algorithm 'should' take you on pretty much the same route as the desktop algorithm (it's not guaranteed, but it seems to work). You then either have to 'cancel' that destination when you arrive at it, so it makes sense to plan them at somewhere that looks like you can pull over to do so safely... OR - Google Nav will automatically cancel the waypoint after you've ignored it for a certain amount of time... BUT that second option comes and goes - sometimes it seems to work, sometimes it will try to get you back to that missed waypoint - it seems to change with each software version.
With Google maps you CAN do navigation without a 3G signal (obviously you DO need a GPS signal), because you can download the map-tiles (the graphics) before hand over 4G or wifi by going into the personal settings in the Google Map app (I can't remember exactly where it is, but you can download set areas I think the max is about 500x500 miles)
I use Calimoto and have done for a couple of years. Its a big app (1.5GB) but thats because it downloads the maps so you don't need to be online. Its ideal for setting circular routes because I set waymarkers to ensure its going on the roads I want but they aren't considered destinations. When you reach a waymarker you just carry on as normal. You can easily drag the route around on the map. Also once you've planned a route you can save it for the future.
It also does auto planning of circular routes if you fancy something different but I haven't used it. Some of the youtubers have used it and claim its good.
However, I'm not sure about planning routes on another device and downloading. I've never considered that.
It also does auto planning of circular routes if you fancy something different but I haven't used it. Some of the youtubers have used it and claim its good.
However, I'm not sure about planning routes on another device and downloading. I've never considered that.
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