Started then stopped
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Havnt been out on my bike for about 6 weeks due to broken toe which is ok now,but the mot is also out now and i havnt booked it in yet.
So i went in the Garage to start it up which with full choke it did and run for about two minutes and then stopped and i havnt been able to start it again.
It turns over ok and i started about 3wks ago ok.
Ive checked all the usuals but cant find any reason why except maybe the fuel has gone off,would it in 6-7wks and woukld that be enough to make it not run.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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So i went in the Garage to start it up which with full choke it did and run for about two minutes and then stopped and i havnt been able to start it again.
It turns over ok and i started about 3wks ago ok.
Ive checked all the usuals but cant find any reason why except maybe the fuel has gone off,would it in 6-7wks and woukld that be enough to make it not run.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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dennisthemenace said:
Niggle said: You did remember to turn the fuel back on?
Doh ! beaten to it
Cheers but the tap was on.first thing i checked.
Thought i might of flooded it so went through the usuall and nothing yet.
Im of to France in the morning so havnt got time to give it a good look over untill next week.
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Just thinking the car in storage had been there so long it would have had 4 star in the tank. Unleaded is horrible stuff and certainly could bung up ya floats. However the octane in the actual fuel will certainly not have degenerated enough for it not too start, unless you have a drag bike running about 30:1 compression....
Very interesting.
I have a 99 Fireblade engine in my race car. With the addition of kehein flatsides, the engine is standard. I last started it about 2 months ago, and now it wont start at all.
Tried everything including changing the plugs.
Blew a starter solenoid by trying too hard.
Am racing at brands this weekend, so the only hope is to bump start it.
Why is it bike engines are such a nightmare to start?
I have a 99 Fireblade engine in my race car. With the addition of kehein flatsides, the engine is standard. I last started it about 2 months ago, and now it wont start at all.
Tried everything including changing the plugs.
Blew a starter solenoid by trying too hard.
Am racing at brands this weekend, so the only hope is to bump start it.
Why is it bike engines are such a nightmare to start?
High compression I think. My old zxr750 took 4 blokes to push start, me sitting on it and the other 3 pushing it and then jumping on the back while I shoved it in gear to get enough traction on the back wheel to cause the engine to turn.
jedi said: Why is it bike engines are such a nightmare to start?
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jedi said: Why is it bike engines are such a nightmare to start?
Yep many's the time I've tried in vain to get me old KTM going only to be disapointed,(left-side kickstart, high compression ratio, 54mm carb...) I live on a hill so I've often tried rolling down to start it...only to push the bastid thing back up again... but my experience of 2 strokes is that they are always a bit "iffy"
Would have thought your blade engine would be OK though, isn't honda s'posed to be ultra-reliable?
my blade had flat slides and was a bastard to start.In the end i use to use easy start,just a gentle mist sprayed accross the trumpets as there was no air box and that always worked providing you caught it when it fired up.It did however blow back a few times but as i was looking at the carbs at the time i ended up burning the eye brows....like ya do
Time to add my Euro's worth...
Could be a number of things...
Carb float stuck (unleaded IS the anti-christ) so it runs until float bowl is dry and then stops.
Fuel tap gummed - mainly if vacuum activated. (same symptoms!) Check fuel is still getting through and the little diaphragm isn't stuck (loadsa fun doing this, turns bike into expensive petrol bomb and makes you smell mmmm.... so nice!)
Battery has died - strange but annoying... they run for a while but can't take charge so die after losing the last dregs. Presumably this isn't it and it still turns over.
Worst option - bad fuel gone off. Main and pilot jets clogged - drain carbs, blast through with carb cleaner (Valvoline my favourite!), once with drains open to clear the cack out, then once shut to pop any out of the jets. If no joy, finally use an airline for the same, if that doesn't work take off and strip - always a fun task!
Just a few places to start - good luck!!
p.s watch the easy-start, too much cokes the plugs REAL quick. Also... bike engines, higher compression, higher spec - 100+ Bhp out of sub litre engines, Multiple carbs - smaller jets easier to block, smaller batteries - less welly, smaller moving parts - less momentum to keep the engine turning and giving it a chance to fire, personality - "I love my bike but she's a bitch in the morning" ;-)
>> Edited by whome on Wednesday 20th November 20:44
Could be a number of things...
Carb float stuck (unleaded IS the anti-christ) so it runs until float bowl is dry and then stops.
Fuel tap gummed - mainly if vacuum activated. (same symptoms!) Check fuel is still getting through and the little diaphragm isn't stuck (loadsa fun doing this, turns bike into expensive petrol bomb and makes you smell mmmm.... so nice!)
Battery has died - strange but annoying... they run for a while but can't take charge so die after losing the last dregs. Presumably this isn't it and it still turns over.
Worst option - bad fuel gone off. Main and pilot jets clogged - drain carbs, blast through with carb cleaner (Valvoline my favourite!), once with drains open to clear the cack out, then once shut to pop any out of the jets. If no joy, finally use an airline for the same, if that doesn't work take off and strip - always a fun task!
Just a few places to start - good luck!!
p.s watch the easy-start, too much cokes the plugs REAL quick. Also... bike engines, higher compression, higher spec - 100+ Bhp out of sub litre engines, Multiple carbs - smaller jets easier to block, smaller batteries - less welly, smaller moving parts - less momentum to keep the engine turning and giving it a chance to fire, personality - "I love my bike but she's a bitch in the morning" ;-)
>> Edited by whome on Wednesday 20th November 20:44
Well all i can say is 'what a firking Tw@t'
I had relied on my odometer reading(said 105 miles) which would suggest to me i had another 15-20 miles left in the Tank.
Well i shock the tank today and heard a little slosh about so, i stick a metal rod on the tank and it shows about 1cm at the bottom.Ok theres some in there but still wont start.(even on Reserve)
So i go down to the petrol station and get 5litres of BP's finest.
Pour it in, try to start it and Feck me.
Starts straight away. now i dont know how low the fuel pipe is in the tank but thats a new one to me.
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I had relied on my odometer reading(said 105 miles) which would suggest to me i had another 15-20 miles left in the Tank.
Well i shock the tank today and heard a little slosh about so, i stick a metal rod on the tank and it shows about 1cm at the bottom.Ok theres some in there but still wont start.(even on Reserve)
So i go down to the petrol station and get 5litres of BP's finest.
Pour it in, try to start it and Feck me.
Starts straight away. now i dont know how low the fuel pipe is in the tank but thats a new one to me.
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