Laminated textiles

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Speed addicted

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5,689 posts

233 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I’m starting to look for a new textile suit, my current Spidi gear is about 8 years old now and past it’s best. It looks like I’ll be doing more commuting on the bike this year too, about 20-30 miles each way.

I’d like laminated gear this time, drop liners are an ineffective pain and I live in NE Scotland so waterproofing is important!

Looking around there’s a wide array of types of laminate, are they much the same? I’d expect goretex to be at the top as it’s usually the most expensive.

Im able to spend around £800, any features you would want or avoid?



TheThing

946 posts

140 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I've got a Wolf Fortitude laminated textile suit. Cost roughly £600 I think. I've worn it through all weathers most days for commuting for around the last 6 months. For the price I can't fault it. Only downside is that the jacket isn't the warmest. Anything below 5 degrees and ill put a waterproof on over the top.

Martylaa

196 posts

195 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I went for the Revit Horizon 2 Textile Jacket and Trousers when trying to get a quality waterproof touring suit, I have to say its been superb, especially last year on our last day in Scotland when it rained all the way from Fort William to Jedburgh, it absolutely tanked it down and the suit was superb not a single wet patch on the clothes underneath.

Tbf I did score on the jacket as a website had a jacket in my size at £199 instead of £359 and they honoured the price, again this outfit gets a massive thumbs up from me.

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/...

Salted_Peanut

1,510 posts

60 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I’d look for something with at least an AA rating for protection, e.g. the Oxford Hinterland. It’s laminated, and Bennetts’ John Milbank preferred the Hinterland over his Rukka.

Also, you could consider the RST Pro Adventure airbag jacket. The jacket and trousers are within your budget. However, there’s an additional £10 a month airbag rental cost, and I’m uncertain if it’s laminated.

Speed addicted

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5,689 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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Salted_Peanut said:
I’d look for something with at least an AA rating for protection, e.g. the Oxford Hinterland. It’s laminated, and Bennetts’ John Milbank preferred the Hinterland over his Rukka.

Also, you could consider the RST Pro Adventure airbag jacket. The jacket and trousers are within your budget. However, there’s an additional £10 a month airbag rental cost, and I’m uncertain if it’s laminated.
Good point about the ratings, it’s been a while since I’ve bought new gear so I hadn’t really thought about it.

I’d kind of discounted Oxford gear, I’ve always seen it as bit cheap but if it’s doing the right things it’s worth a look.

Not sure I want the added complication of airbags, laminated kit is more important to me and I’d rather the money went into that than more tech.


911newbie

600 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I got a Revit Trench jacket, laminated goretex and level 2 protection. Added a back protector.

It's seen me through this winter with zero leaks, and always kept me warm (incl base layers).

Only comment was it got a lot tighter when the bakc protector went in.

Biker9090

1,051 posts

43 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I'd definitely go Oxford Hinterland.

I love my Bering Balistik but it's only A rated

Max5476

1,000 posts

120 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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I'm currently looking for similar - or what I consider as the holy grail of motorcycle textiles (jacket and trousers)
Budget - £800 for the set
Laminated Construction
CE Level 2 Protection for shoulder, elbow, hips and knees
Ability to add CE level 2 back protector (if not included)
Ability to add CE level 1 chest protector (if not included)
CE rated AA for protection

There are lots of sets which get close, but all fall over on one aspect except:
Spidi Alpen Trophy
[URL]https://www.spidi.com/eu_en/alpentrophy[URL]
which I think hits everything.

Others I have considered.
Oxford Hinterland - CE Level 1, and no chest protector.
RST Pro Series Commander - no chest protector
RST Pro Series Ambush - Not laminated
Furygan Voyager 3C - only CE Level 1 impact protection, only 7000mm water rating, although most others don't even advertise a rating.
Rev'It Vertical GTX - Pushes budget up to £1000
Weise Outlast Frontier - CE Level 1, no chest protector - but cheapest laminated suit I have seen.
Halvarssons Vansbro - Price, no chest protector
Lindstrands Sunne - CE Level 1, no chest protector

And many more that don't immediately come back to mind.

The Knox Honister gets an interesting mention for being an AAA rated textile, but would need all the warm / waterproof layers adding on top.

Much to Mrs5476's frustration I am being completely indecisive about a new suit, while I try and decided how important a chest protector is, and whether I am better with a laminated suit, or just a really good quality rain jacket over the top.

Salted_Peanut

1,510 posts

60 months

Monday 2nd May 2022
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@Max5476 The Spidi Alpen Trophy looks great, and I hope it’s a good fit for you. I commuted in Spidi for a while, and it was quality gear.

Edited by Salted_Peanut on Monday 2nd May 21:10

SteveKTMer

980 posts

37 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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Max5476 said:
Oxford Hinterland - CE Level 1, and no chest protector.
https://www.oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/o...

Hinterland is AA rated, but I wouldn't get hung up on the rating, both A and AA are low.

Edited by SteveKTMer on Tuesday 3rd May 09:57

Speed addicted

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5,689 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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SteveKTMer said:
Max5476 said:
Oxford Hinterland - CE Level 1, and no chest protector.
https://www.oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/o...

Hinterland is AA rated, but I wouldn't get hung up on the rating, both A and AA are low.

Edited by SteveKTMer on Tuesday 3rd May 09:57
Depends how you look at it, AA is also the second highest.
I’m buying textiles, which I’d expect to perform less well in a crash compared to full leather race suits.
I’m prepared to take a bit less protection for more comfort and versatility.

TheThing

946 posts

140 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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Speed addicted said:
SteveKTMer said:
Max5476 said:
Oxford Hinterland - CE Level 1, and no chest protector.
https://www.oxfordproducts.com/motorcycle/brands/o...

Hinterland is AA rated, but I wouldn't get hung up on the rating, both A and AA are low.

Edited by SteveKTMer on Tuesday 3rd May 09:57
Depends how you look at it, AA is also the second highest.
I’m buying textiles, which I’d expect to perform less well in a crash compared to full leather race suits.
I’m prepared to take a bit less protection for more comfort and versatility.
I wouldn't get too obsessed with A ratings. There are other things to consider such as fit, comfort, weather protection and where the armour sits on your body. You can have as much abrasion resistance as you want but if the armour is not where its supposed to be and the entire suit leaks like a sieve then it's going to be pretty useless.

ssray

1,135 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2022
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I've got a Oxford hinterland jacket, really nice jacket
Look on eBay as I got mine new for lees than £200 about two months after release