Pick of the Panigale’s?
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t on the road, too taught, too wound up, can be cramped, all will roast your nads.Yours if you wont it ( not for free) its bloody painful for a road bike ( and old age) . Nice to look at though. I enjoyed my 848 evo for short runs it just felt special .
The 959 is without doubt a better bike, it pulls hard and is easer to ride but for short special occasion rides on a sports bike its not special enough for me, providing you have more than one bike in the garage.
As above, a cracking bike for the track and not as intimidating as the 1199 and 1299 and probably faster for it.
The 959 is without doubt a better bike, it pulls hard and is easer to ride but for short special occasion rides on a sports bike its not special enough for me, providing you have more than one bike in the garage.
As above, a cracking bike for the track and not as intimidating as the 1199 and 1299 and probably faster for it.
jackh707 said:
Just looking for owners experiences.
Potentially looking at Panigales’s? and I know nothing about them.
From 1199 through to 959 V2s and the V4s what makes the best road bike, which would you recommend for track.
ABS and a friendlish throttle response and clutch are preferred.
V4S or 1299S, all the rest are inferior to the competition. Or for Ducati beardies living in the past.Potentially looking at Panigales’s? and I know nothing about them.
From 1199 through to 959 V2s and the V4s what makes the best road bike, which would you recommend for track.
ABS and a friendlish throttle response and clutch are preferred.
blade7 said:
jackh707 said:
Just looking for owners experiences.
Potentially looking at Panigales’s? and I know nothing about them.
From 1199 through to 959 V2s and the V4s what makes the best road bike, which would you recommend for track.
ABS and a friendlish throttle response and clutch are preferred.
V4S or 1299S, all the rest are inferior to the competition. Or for Ducati beardies living in the past.Potentially looking at Panigales’s? and I know nothing about them.
From 1199 through to 959 V2s and the V4s what makes the best road bike, which would you recommend for track.
ABS and a friendlish throttle response and clutch are preferred.
I wouldn't buy any of them. 3 pals had various iterations of them and all 3 became very very close to the local dealer. Each went fro. 1 little issue to the next (yes mainly little issues but still)
If you want to look at it then they are beautiful without doubt but make sure you know what to expect they are not the best built machines in the world.
Now here come the " I've done a 100,00 miles on mine and been flawless"
1 mate did get to take his to the south if France and it didn't break down but several plastic parts did melt and needed replaced on his return home.
If you want to look at it then they are beautiful without doubt but make sure you know what to expect they are not the best built machines in the world.
Now here come the " I've done a 100,00 miles on mine and been flawless"
1 mate did get to take his to the south if France and it didn't break down but several plastic parts did melt and needed replaced on his return home.
If you get a big twin, get the R version for use on track - the non-R engine reportedly doesn't like too much dedicated track use although a temporary brain fart causes me to forget the specific reason. The newest V4S is supposed to be the least difficult to go fast on if you're up to it. Otherwise, it's the usual abiity and budget questions.
I'm pretty slow but my 1199 is a great laugh on track. My anecdotal experience and of the old instructors at the CSS suggest the 1199 can show disdain to keeping a tight line - 1299 is allegedly better out the box in that regard, it's also improved lower down the revs too as the 1199 is a bit of a screamer - the 1299 is better on road for this reason. The smaller ones are similar save for the 959 corse and V2 bayliss that come with gold suspension - basically an 'S' version in all but name.
Oh, and for a sportsbike, they're relatively comfy imo.
The 'bigger' bikes tend to be lighter than the baby ones if that bothers you at all.
I'm pretty slow but my 1199 is a great laugh on track. My anecdotal experience and of the old instructors at the CSS suggest the 1199 can show disdain to keeping a tight line - 1299 is allegedly better out the box in that regard, it's also improved lower down the revs too as the 1199 is a bit of a screamer - the 1299 is better on road for this reason. The smaller ones are similar save for the 959 corse and V2 bayliss that come with gold suspension - basically an 'S' version in all but name.
Oh, and for a sportsbike, they're relatively comfy imo.
The 'bigger' bikes tend to be lighter than the baby ones if that bothers you at all.
Edited by horico on Sunday 17th April 22:41
I went for the 959 , at the time, i test rode the 1299 for a few hours. Wasted on the road a licence loser was like riding a catapult and just wanted to.fly off into the distance. Not enjoyable at speeds up to 50mph. I think the v4 is a big step on and i didnt even bother riding one.
959 a bit more restrained , and more than i was capable of, more comfy than the fireblade i was selling. Yes nuts get warm but can put heat resistant material under the seat which does help.
I really enjoyed owning it.
959 a bit more restrained , and more than i was capable of, more comfy than the fireblade i was selling. Yes nuts get warm but can put heat resistant material under the seat which does help.
I really enjoyed owning it.
I’ve owned a 1299S for almost 7 years and it’s never let me down, annual servicing aint bad and the only non-service item required in it’s life is a fork rebuild at the start of this year. It does eat tyres. It is, by some margin, more comfortable than previous 1098/748s/r but not as good as my 749. I happily do long days without issues (I’m 56 years old, 5’9”, medium build, no ape arms or legs).
Fueling and gearing hampers it in-town (every ducati has been the same), and the heat from the exhaust does roast the nads in slow traffic but on the open road it’s lovely, responsive, faster than I need and handles beautifully. Active suspension and QS U/D are both epic. Highly recommended.
Fueling and gearing hampers it in-town (every ducati has been the same), and the heat from the exhaust does roast the nads in slow traffic but on the open road it’s lovely, responsive, faster than I need and handles beautifully. Active suspension and QS U/D are both epic. Highly recommended.
MrOrange said:
I’ve owned a 1299S for almost 7 years and it’s never let me down, annual servicing aint bad and the only non-service item required in it’s life is a fork rebuild at the start of this year. It does eat tyres. I happily do long days without issues
After 3 hours on mine yesterday, I started thinking about heated grips and cruise control...I’ve had a first gen base V4 and it wasn’t enjoyable a lot of the time on the road, it got REALLY hot, filtering and riding through town was almost unbearable in the summer, roasted your legs at every traffic light, the clutch is really grabby and horrible.
It was also back to the dealer a lot for recalls and issues.
It’s only really happy when you’re pressing on, and when you are it’s a brilliant bike, that said I honestly prefer my R1M that I replaced it with to it overall.
I’d be interested to see what the newer ones are like as they’re meant to be better to live with, although I’d ride it back to back with the new Aprilia if buying new.
It was also back to the dealer a lot for recalls and issues.
It’s only really happy when you’re pressing on, and when you are it’s a brilliant bike, that said I honestly prefer my R1M that I replaced it with to it overall.
I’d be interested to see what the newer ones are like as they’re meant to be better to live with, although I’d ride it back to back with the new Aprilia if buying new.
Edited by Walter Sobchak on Monday 18th April 16:28
I had a sit on both the V2 and V4 today at a dealers.
I Will have to arrange a test ride, I’m coming from a RC8 as a point of comparison, if the smaller capacity V2s engine is in the same ball park, which on paper is only 5lbft down but 5hp up (but I’ll be surprised if this is the case as it’s almost 200cc down), the V2 sounds like the better bike for me.
I live in the countryside round the corner from Oulton so town character isn’t a bother for me, kerb appeal, nice noise and nice handling are priorities.
I open to any other suggestions for a “special” bit of metal for the garage.
I Will have to arrange a test ride, I’m coming from a RC8 as a point of comparison, if the smaller capacity V2s engine is in the same ball park, which on paper is only 5lbft down but 5hp up (but I’ll be surprised if this is the case as it’s almost 200cc down), the V2 sounds like the better bike for me.
I live in the countryside round the corner from Oulton so town character isn’t a bother for me, kerb appeal, nice noise and nice handling are priorities.
I open to any other suggestions for a “special” bit of metal for the garage.
Panigale 1199 R here. Owned it for 5 years, it's a keeper. Got to say though that I have had to change blown map. Sensors twice on it over the years.
The map sensors seem to be a thing on ducatis because my Diavel carbon red has had to have them changed twice to
The map sensors seem to be a thing on ducatis because my Diavel carbon red has had to have them changed twice to
Edited by FezSpider on Monday 18th April 22:47
FezSpider said:
Panigale 1199 R here. Owned it for 5 years, it's a keeper. Got to say though that I have had to change blown map. Sensors twice on it over the years.
The map sensors seem to be a thing on ducatis because my Diavel carbon red has had to have them changed twice to
They are a bit like the coils on a 999, I keep a spare MAP sensor in my trackday kit bag nowadays.The map sensors seem to be a thing on ducatis because my Diavel carbon red has had to have them changed twice to
Edited by FezSpider on Monday 18th April 22:47
jackh707 said:
I had a sit on both the V2 and V4 today at a dealers.
I Will have to arrange a test ride, I’m coming from a RC8 as a point of comparison, if the smaller capacity V2s engine is in the same ball park, which on paper is only 5lbft down but 5hp up (but I’ll be surprised if this is the case as it’s almost 200cc down), the V2 sounds like the better bike for me.
I live in the countryside round the corner from Oulton so town character isn’t a bother for me, kerb appeal, nice noise and nice handling are priorities.
I open to any other suggestions for a “special” bit of metal for the garage.
One other thing to mention with the V4 is that it doesn’t sound much like one, at least until high up in the rev range.I Will have to arrange a test ride, I’m coming from a RC8 as a point of comparison, if the smaller capacity V2s engine is in the same ball park, which on paper is only 5lbft down but 5hp up (but I’ll be surprised if this is the case as it’s almost 200cc down), the V2 sounds like the better bike for me.
I live in the countryside round the corner from Oulton so town character isn’t a bother for me, kerb appeal, nice noise and nice handling are priorities.
I open to any other suggestions for a “special” bit of metal for the garage.
Personally if it were me I’d pick the new Aprilia over one but I just prefer how they ride, the Panigale is an amazing bike and I’m sure most of the foibles of the first generation have been sorted.
Enjoy the new bike whatever you decide on.
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