Bike for a returning biker.

Bike for a returning biker.

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italian job

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246 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Passed my test when I was 18, had a GPZ 600 as my first big bike, then a ZZR600 then an NC30 and finally a ZX6 before children came along. Fast forward 18 yrs, I'm 51 and thinking seriously about buying a bike again. Out of my old bikes I look back most fondly at my NC400, for me it was the most fun because of the way it handled, despite the 600's being faster.
The bike I keep coming back to is a Honda CB500F, the 2022MY. My reasoning is that its perfect for someone like me, right at the bottom of the learning curve, reviews suggest that its fun, which is what I'm after, just the fun of being back on two wheels again, I'm not bothered one bit about not having the fastest thing.
I do have a couple of friends with bikes, one has recommended something like a BMW S1000 as he says the electronics will look after inexperienced me ,and the other friend can see the sense of the 500 but thinks the lack of go will quickly become frustrating.
Just wondering what peoples opinions are?
Cheers .

hiccy18

2,946 posts

73 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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There's no right answer. Having gone through something similar I tend towards agreeing with your second friend more and suggest something around 600-900, things like SV650's and MT07's have enough performance to be fun yet docile enough controls to forgive hamfisted inputs.

But the only correct answer is to get a bike you want to ride. smile

Martylaa

196 posts

195 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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So much choice out there isn't there in that range you mentioned, please don't make mine and others errors, try and get a test ride on the bike you like before buying, it really will give you a better idea of what's best for you.

italian job

Original Poster:

246 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Thanks for both those replies , very good points.

italian job

Original Poster:

246 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Possibly a good idea to sign up for some training as a first step, then a test ride might actually be worthwhile, at the moment a test ride is a pretty daunting prospect.....dont laugh....(0

OutInTheShed

8,911 posts

32 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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italian job said:
Passed my test when I was 18, had a GPZ 600 as my first big bike, then a ZZR600 then an NC30 and finally a ZX6 before children came along. Fast forward 18 yrs, I'm 51 and thinking seriously about buying a bike again. Out of my old bikes I look back most fondly at my NC400, for me it was the most fun because of the way it handled, despite the 600's being faster.
The bike I keep coming back to is a Honda CB500F, the 2022MY. My reasoning is that its perfect for someone like me, right at the bottom of the learning curve, reviews suggest that its fun, which is what I'm after, just the fun of being back on two wheels again, I'm not bothered one bit about not having the fastest thing.
I do have a couple of friends with bikes, one has recommended something like a BMW S1000 as he says the electronics will look after inexperienced me ,and the other friend can see the sense of the 500 but thinks the lack of go will quickly become frustrating.
Just wondering what peoples opinions are?
Cheers .
I'd suggest having a real think about what kind of rides you want to do.
Obviously you've had quick bikes in the past, but there's a world of choice from riding a 250 trail bike around the lanes, touring on an adventure bike, riding like a loon on a real sports bike etc.
There's a lot of people around with very fast 1000cc bikes, but in the real world, how much time do they spend going faster than a touring 500 would go?
Your mates may be embarrassed when you turn up only 30 seconds after they do on a 30 mile ride.
OTOH, big soft bikes are easy to ride, it's true you can push your luck trying to keep up if your bike is really slow, like the 250 I had when I was young.

I'd say get test rides on diverse bikes. Bloke I worked with in your position bought a BMW R9T and loves it. Another has a big KTM., that suits him well enough.

V5Ade

230 posts

216 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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I did the same about 2 years ago. I sold my ZRX400 in when I was 26 back in 1997 to use the funds for a house deposit, expecting to get another bike soon but that didn't happen.
At he start of the pandemic I decided that I needed to ride again, but I was concerned how rusty I would be. I took a test ride on a KTM790 Duke and was stunned at how far bikes and tyres had evolved. I was happier with naked as it was more comfortable and easier on my wrists. I'm pretty sure the electronics saved my arse a couple of times in the first 1000 miles, so I'd say a bike with a 6 axis IMU is a good bet.
I've loved it and swapped the 790 for a 1290 Superduke when the 790 was in for its first service biggrin

Go and test ride a bike and see how you feel after. I bet it won't take long before you have one in the garage smile

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

90 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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It depends what you want to do. Commute? Weekend fun? Long distance? B roads?
I still have a re-yearning for a motorbike, it never leaves you (even after retirement - perhaps it even gets stronger.
For me, if I went back, it would be for short journeys, or B road wandering (not blasts). The ease of just pulling over to stop anywhere has great appeal.
Bikes? Well, there is of course electric bikes, such as the Zero range. Expensive and not particularly visceral. Probably an ‘adventure’ bike would be my choice, I always fancied a V4 Honda. My personal choice would be a Honda of some flavour. Sat Navs and automatics are available options, of course.

TheThing

946 posts

140 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Can't go wrong with an SV650, Z650 or MT07. All good bikes that will do anything. Good fun as well and ideal to ease someone back into riding.

darkyoung1000

2,146 posts

202 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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It sounds like you got more fun from handling than you did from just pure speed, so I'd that's still the case, look for something slower or smaller capacity again, but that gives a great sensation of speed. It's also less likely to bite if you do make an error with the acceleration input.

The rider training is always a good shout, worth looking at any Police run Bikesafe days in your area perhaps? Really good for road riding!

Good luck with whatever bike you end up with (but if you want to revisit old haunts, I'm selling my NC30... hehe)

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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italian job said:
at the moment a test ride is a pretty daunting prospect.....dont laugh....(0
With this in mind I’d probably go for something that you won’t be so precious about to ease back in. Then sell and upgrade or add a second bike when ready.

Bob-iylho

716 posts

112 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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I hadn't ridden for 15 years, then bought a KTM 1190 RC8R. I love it, but I'm not convinced I should have done it, scared the st out of me to start with.

Pica-Pica

14,353 posts

90 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Have a look at some of the riding videos, especially the US low-speed handling ones.

scorcher

4,008 posts

240 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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italian job said:
at the moment a test ride is a pretty daunting prospect.....dont laugh....
Get a couple of refresher lessons in with a riding school. I done a couple hours after a good break just to get the feel for things again. As others have said there’s plenty of middleweights out there to choose from that are both easy enough to ride and docile and wil give enough power to make easy progress past cars aswell.

Mr Squarekins

1,164 posts

68 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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S1000r or rr have forgiving electronics, but i'm not sure you really want 200bhp immediately.

You could just ride it in rain mode for a few weeks though.

KTMsm

27,480 posts

269 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Having done similar recently - I'd suggest reading up, go to a large indie and sit on a load of them

Buy something that you won't lose much money on because it isn't until you've ridden for a while that you'll know what you like

I'd recommend a 600 naked as a starting point in your position - MT07, ER6N, Ducati Scrambler etc

italian job

Original Poster:

246 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Really appreciate the responses... plenty to think about...should have said from the outset, what ever I have will be for fun, ride outs with friends and hopefully longer road trips in the future. I'll definately do the training first then spend some time sitting on stuff in dealerships prior to test rides. Thanks again.

carinaman

21,888 posts

178 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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italian job said:
Possibly a good idea to sign up for some training as a first step, then a test ride might actually be worthwhile, at the moment a test ride is a pretty daunting prospect.....dont laugh....(0
I had a session before getting back on a bike. The instructor suggested I go out on the road on a bigger 70 bhp bike after some of the exercise ground stuff like riding slowly beside the instructor as they walked along. I found it really useful and fun. I'd recommend it.

carinaman

21,888 posts

178 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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italian job said:
Out of my old bikes I look back most fondly at my NC400, for me it was the most fun because of the way it handled, despite the 600's being faster.
Neevsy in the link said:
It handles really nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrx2U0DcOHQ

The elephant in the room at 6 mins. 30 secs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C29rLm5624o

BvG in 44 Teeth review said:
Really flickable. Feels fast turning and a lot of fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGgl5-GBS4U

Exceeding your CB500 budget but as you said you loved the handling of your NC400.

Neevsy in the link references faster 600s said:
A pure, intense fun bike for the road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8m8MRE0vGA

A VFR400 (NC24 I think) owner initiated a chat with me last autumn but I don't know how KTM Dukes that feel very responsive to me compare with a VFR400.



Edited by carinaman on Sunday 27th March 00:25

Esceptico

8,101 posts

115 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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Check out the insurance on a few bikes. I found that coming back to biking after many years and without any NCB it was pretty expensive for anything nice. Might be worth spending a year with the CBF500 to get used to biking again and building some NCB.