New Triumph Tiger 1200 better than a GS?

New Triumph Tiger 1200 better than a GS?

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jimPH

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3,981 posts

86 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Seems to be living up to the hype, wonder if it will tempt some GS owners across.



Martylaa

196 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2022
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Didn't the MCN review mention a lot of vibrations on the test?

jimPH

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3,981 posts

86 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2022
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Good vibrations from the new T crank. The kind of characterful vibes you get from a twin not the nasty buzzy tingling vibes you get from a 4, iirc.


Cestrian

31 posts

50 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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That is exactly the dilema I have. I am seriously considering trading in my 2017 GS 1200, for the New Triumph Tiger 1200. I have always liked the Hinckley Triumphs and previously had a Daytona 955i and Sprint GT. I seriously considered the previous model Explorer 1200 however when I tried one i was decidedly underwhelmed. It felt a bit like a two wheeled car.

I am hoping the new Tiger 1200 will be different and can't wait to see one in the flesh. Early reviews look encouraging though.

spareparts

6,783 posts

233 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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Triumph reliability of latest bikes very questionable, dealer network, and foibles of a brand new bike model. Triumph still playing catch up, especially as this doesn’t better the competition.

jimPH

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3,981 posts

86 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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spareparts said:
Triumph reliability of latest bikes very questionable, dealer network, and foibles of a brand new bike model. Triumph still playing catch up, especially as this doesn’t better the competition.
It's 25kg lighter with more power.

Steve Bass

10,327 posts

239 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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I'd say walking with gravel in my shoes is better than a GS hehe

wa16

2,240 posts

227 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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spareparts said:
Triumph reliability of latest bikes very questionable, dealer network, and foibles of a brand new bike model. Triumph still playing catch up, especially as this doesn’t better the competition.
really, its only isolated issues with some new bikes not every new model and then not everyone of the new models,
dealer network - what is wrong? i own a triumph and a Kawasaki, at the moment, and the dealer for each or no better or worse than each other or any other I have experienced

catching who up and how do we know it doesn't better the competition - i think many professional testers are scared to say it’s better than the great god GS for fear of being burnt at the stake bu the keyboard aholes who cannot see beyond three little letters

no doubt there'll be some who think anything that isn't a boxer twin is crap all praise the great god GS and they'll find the most innocuous little issues to slate the new explorer but that doesn’t mean it’s a crap bike

I hope it sells like hot cakes, it would be nice to hear a different exhaust note on a Sunday morning


outnumbered

4,326 posts

240 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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If it's genuinely better, it'll sell. I'm sure there are plenty of GS owners who would gladly change if the Explorer is really better this time.

KobayashiMaru86

1,299 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th March 2022
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Got a test ride next month. Not looking to change but do want to get a bike like this eventually. I rode the new Speed Triple 1200 and loved the engine but needed more time with the dash as they've been hit and miss lately. My pre facelift 765 RS I find fine.

As a dealer, my local have been great. Far better than the majority of car dealers I've dealt with

off_again

12,815 posts

240 months

Saturday 26th March 2022
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Saw the video reviews and it looks good. Think it’s a good blend of on road dynamics and off road if you want that type of thing. Liking the option of the big tank and the weight drop should be good.

I had a 2012 Explorer and loved it. It was no back roads blaster, but did long distances extremely well and was super smooth. Did struggle with the screen, but one I got some winglets it was amazing. Took it all the way to Sweden and maxed it out on the autobahns. Loved that bike.

I guess I need to take a look at the new one when it comes here!

Wombat3

12,731 posts

212 months

Sunday 27th March 2022
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They said this about the last 1200 Tiger..... but it was still too heavy. They do seem to have fixed that now & the new 1200 looks really good. I'd try a 1250 GS before you jump though, its a good step on from a 1200GS.

Triumph gearboxes and quick shifters are definitely better than on a GS IMO. Nowhere near as good as an XR though.

Its Triumph's service costs that are eye-watering - albeit the 1200 Tigers are on 10K & 20K intervals whereas a GS is on 6 & 12K.

A 20K valve service on a Tiger 1200 will set you back a grand (+). More if they have to start adjusting valve clearances. A valve service (@12K) on a GS is in the £350-£400 range,

The same numbers also apply to 850 & 900 Tigers - but running costs are even higher because their service intervals are at 6K &12K so they are very, very expensive bikes to run.

Annual/small services are also over double what BMW charge.






Bob_Defly

3,986 posts

237 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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Boothy is really moving off-road on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZZcPde4-_E

Familymad

855 posts

223 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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I’ll go and try one for sure. Always a shaft drive for me as I just can’t be doing with cleaning a chain on my knees in thr cold and wet when doing 8k a year.

Had two 1250 GS and both had issues that have put me right off. Failing water temp sensor then erratic one after a fix. Heated grip failed and clunking from back end (they all do that sir). Chopped it in for a new one (no clunking at back end) and in 1000 miles the water temp is now erratic, heated grip failed (same side as last GS) and now the engine cut out on me this week while in the lakes.

Quite like the KTM but for the chain