Racers who deserved better…

Racers who deserved better…

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Rene Souffle

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3,505 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Was just flicking through the BSB Twitter and seeing some of the flashback photos got me thinking…

Who in all of the racing categories deserved better than they achieved?

For me the main ones are Stuart Easton and Josh Elliott.
In my opinion Easton had his career cut short by injury.

Josh got dropped when he was on the up, which seemed utterly tragic as he was doing so well for OMG Suzuki at the time.

I would ask would have loved to have seen Guy Martin win a TT.



zeb

3,229 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Would like to have seen Rutter win bsb

The Road Crew

4,255 posts

166 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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He won 3 world titles in the lower classes but I would like to have seen Pedrosa win the big one.

3DP

9,924 posts

240 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Aaron Slight - always the bridesmade for most of 1990s WSB and then had career cut slightly short by a brain tumour. Luckily recovered.

Similarly Noriyuki Haga. Robbed of his only likely WSB championship by a cold remedy

Rene Souffle

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3,505 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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The Road Crew said:
He won 3 world titles in the lower classes but I would like to have seen Pedrosa win the big one.
That’s a very good shout. Poor Dani.

Rene Souffle

Original Poster:

3,505 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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3DP said:
Similarly Noriyuki Haga. Robbed of his only likely WSB championship by a cold remedy
What happened? Failed a drugs test or something?

Rene Souffle

Original Poster:

3,505 posts

219 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Now that I think about it, I’ll add John Hopkins to the list. Had a really good run in BSB but then smashed himself to bits before he got the chance to have another good fight for the title.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

92 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Randy Mamola.
What did he ever do wrong, not to become a World Champion?

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Rene Souffle said:
3DP said:
Similarly Noriyuki Haga. Robbed of his only likely WSB championship by a cold remedy
What happened? Failed a drugs test or something?
Failed a drug test for Ephedrine. DSQ for one race and missed the last 2 races. Finished 65 points off Edwards, so far from a certainty that he would've won it.

Think he was more robbed by his team mate at Imola 2009, when he finished only 6 points off Spies. Remember Tardozzi not looking too pleased with Fabrizio!

Rob 131 Sport

3,027 posts

58 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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The racer to me that given the right equipment could have been a world champion for Britain was Alan Carter. He was often referred to as the next Barry Sheene, but unfortunately for a number of reasons it didn’t quite happen.

Carl Fogarty could have been a multiple 500cc Grand Prix winner and possibly even 500 World Champion.

Josh Brookes had he kept doing the TT every year from his debut in 2013 could have challenged Dunlop, Harrison and Hickman for Big Bike wins at the TT.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

52 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Some of the ones here make me chuckle, Haga, nasty piece of work, rode a bike knowingly blowing oil out for a lap on a wet track years back then dumped it in pits, never won the title coz he couldn't take the pressure, and took a banned substance coz he was chubster!

Slight, spent his entire career moaning about Ducati's having an unfair advantage, Foggy won more races than him in his year on the same bike and then John K won the title on it, he sloped off and was pasted by Edwards on a Honda Ducato lol Moaning bd.

Pedrosa should have been a multiple champ, but has brittle bones and a collarbone like a twig, also was never quite strong enough to ride a big bike for me.

Mamola would have won it had he not spent so much time partying. Gardner would have won more than one had he not spent so much time worrying about Lawson and more about the fact Doohan was quicker until he realised too late!

Schwantz should have had at least two titles, but realised how to win them in his last good year, then won it only after Wayne's crash, and he admits himself he would rather give it back, a true legend.

Rutter should have won BSB twice, but had a quicker team mate and silly injuries and brain fade.

And finally Gobert Emmett, all potential GP winners, as was Russell, if they could have just stayed away form the drugs, booze. Gobert is one of the most talented riders I have ever seen, made bikes do things no-one else could yet he wasted it ALL


mickyh7

2,347 posts

92 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Rob 131 Sport said:
The racer to me that given the right equipment could have been a world champion for Britain was Alan Carter. He was often referred to as the next Barry Sheene, but unfortunately for a number of reasons it didn’t quite happen.

Carl Fogarty could have been a multiple 500cc Grand Prix winner and possibly even 500 World Champion.

Josh Brookes had he kept doing the TT every year from his debut in 2013 could have challenged Dunlop, Harrison and Hickman for Big Bike wins at the TT.
I watched Alan Carter give a Marshall a right hook once, when he tried to stop him re-mounting a crashed bike!

Muzzer79

10,865 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th March 2022
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Shakey Byrne deserved more out of MotoGP.

Jonathan Rea deserved more of a shot at MotoGP

hiccy18

2,946 posts

73 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Luis Salom deserved better.

Stuart Fordyce

1,517 posts

67 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Kevin Coghlan. Scottish rider in the first season of Moto2 when Elias won the title on the Moriwaki. Did alright but was riding for free, and was sacked mid season when someone offered to pay for the ride.

That's racing you might think, but it was between the back to back rounds in Europe. They dumped him and his stuff at the services in the middle of Europe. You'd think they'd at least get him to a train station!

Both Dani Pedrosa and Guy Martin did get the chances, just didn't roll for them.

blade7

11,311 posts

222 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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What really matters most, when talent, money, machinery, and determination are all in the mix?

Walter Sobchak

5,725 posts

230 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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3DP said:
Aaron Slight - always the bridesmade for most of 1990s WSB and then had career cut slightly short by a brain tumour. Luckily recovered.

Similarly Noriyuki Haga. Robbed of his only likely WSB championship by a cold remedy
Saw the thread and came on to say both of them!, was just getting into bikes when Haga was on the R7 and was gutted he didn’t win the WSB title.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

52 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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It is a shame more riders did not transfer to GP racing from WSB, back in the 90's it was not fashionable, Dorna preferred to promote from with s stroke racing for track knowledge and it was a very close knit circus, but someone like Foggy, even Polen, Russell did perfectly well on GP bikes when they ride them, Corser was treated very badly as was Russell but a lot of his failing was his own fault.

Bayliss failed to be consistently good, and the one people forget is Tamada who won races mainly due to being on Bridgestone tyres, but still has two wins to his name.

Rea had his chances to race in GPs but preferred to stay in SBK to win titles and likely earn more.

thatdude

2,657 posts

133 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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LukeBrown66 said:
Bayliss failed to be consistently good,
I'm pretty sure the stat on Bayliss was he won a third of all races he entered in WSBK? The guy is a legend, along with colin edwards

Zarco

18,394 posts

215 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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John Hopkins.