Midlayer – warm without clamminess?

[Salted_Peanut]

Talk to me about midlayers. Which are winter-warm without being clammy?

Albeit pricey, the Rukka Hybe-R and Klim OverRide Alloy look promising. FC-Moto usually slashes Rukka prices, but I’d rather avoid post-Brexit returns if anything’s not quite right.

[bogie]

I bought a Rukka windproof shirt a few years ago and have never needed anything warmer. You Can wear in on its own next to the skin as its fleece lined or on top of a base layer. I rarely ride at less than 5 deg C though.

https://www.rukkamotorsport.com/rukkamotorsport_en...

[stang65]

Surely it's the base layer that stops things getting clammy? If you're warm and getting sweaty it's what's next to your skin that will make the difference and wick away moisture. As far as base layers go I like EDZ.

[Salted_Peanut]

Yes, I have a wicking base layer. In addition, some midlayers have better breathability than others.

[ianrb]

I use merino wool for both base & mid layers. Light weight for base, heavy weight for mid. Either Smartwool or Icebreaker, can't remember which is which, but both makes are good so it doesn't really matter.

Usually the best (cheapest) way to source them is at the end of the ski season remaining stock get sold off cheap. But no one has been skiing for 2 years, so that may not work right now.

[SteelerSE]

I'm interested in recommendations too as when it's cold I use a base layer, a polo neck and then my heated waistcoat. It mostly works but the polo neck is cotton and isn't ideal.

[Salted_Peanut]

I agree that any decent wicking base-layer should do. However, I'd add that some materials work particularly well: Outlast® (adds significant comfort across a wide temperature range) and merino (very warm). I prefer merino for the coldest winter days, but I find Outlast® is better for the rest of the year.

[bogie]

anonymous said:

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Outlast is a material but more about keeping warm with minimum bulk versus waterproofing, I have it in some gloves, works well
https://www.outlast.com/en/

I find motorcycle brand specific can be over priced. Merino base layer for general use can be £50, yet you find motorcycle brand equivalent is £80-90 because its for a bike. Helly Hansen kit ive been wearing for years is fine on the bike.

[RizzoTheRat]

For winter riding you really can't beat an electric heated jacket. I'm a cheapskate so made my own for about 25 quid by sewing wire in to a cheap fleece gilet, and it's toasty... in fact so toasty that I spent an extra tenner for a temperature controller but never got round to fitting it as I changed jobs and stopped winter commuting on the bike

[Salted_Peanut]

Outlast – a material used in clothing – has a temperature regulation trick: it helps keep you warm when it’s cold outside. Yet it also helps keep you cool when the temperature is hot (reducing sweatiness). While it doesn’t work miracles, it’s pretty good and worth having. Merino’s slightly warmer, but Outlast feels nicer on the skin.

Some Halvarssons base-layers use Outlast material. And some of Rukka’s base- and mid-layers use Outlast, too.