How to stop motorbike dissolving in concrete garage?

How to stop motorbike dissolving in concrete garage?

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DickP

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1,132 posts

156 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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I bought my house earlier last year, and it came with a concrete pre-fab panel garage which has a single skin profile metal sheet roof on it. The garage concrete panels are in poor condition with significant spalling exposing reinforcement. Eventually I would like to do something about the garage, but priority is on the house first.

However, my motorbike has been in the garage over the winter months and just been to give it a once over ahead of the MOT next month. The bike is not in very good condition! Chain and discs corroded (brakes stuck on even!), fastening furred up and forks also corroded (thankfully chrome looks okay). Where I used to live before here had a traditional built brickwork garage attached to the house and the bike was fine in there, but evidently this concrete garage is too damp for it.

What realistic options do I have to stop this happening again? Is there a carcoon thing which includes a dehumidifier to keep the bike dry? Dehumidifying the full garage isn't realistic as it's got gaping holes everywhere and I will be having to rebuild it in the next few years anyway...

Thoughts welcome please.

Ryan_T

233 posts

111 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Cover it in ACF-50 - Genuinely magical stuff.

DickP

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1,132 posts

156 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Thanks but don't think I can apply that ACF 50 onto the brakes or chain??

Jazoli

9,199 posts

256 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Ryan_T said:
Cover it in ACF-50 - Genuinely magical stuff.
Or XCP rust blocker, which is even better.

You can get carcoon's for bikes they are around £250

https://www.demon-tweeks.com/carcoon-bikebubble-79...

DickP

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1,132 posts

156 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Do they work in damp environments? i.e. even if it's dripping in the garage it will be dry inside?

Krikkit

26,925 posts

187 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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DickP said:
Do they work in damp environments? i.e. even if it's dripping in the garage it will be dry inside?
Should do but there are limits!

As a quick fix if you have a leaky roof get a double layer of pond liner over the top (just hold it down with a few bricks), works a treat on all outbuildings and not silly expensive.

Once it's not dripping wet, you could dehumidify or just ventillate it with a fan.

Stevemr

611 posts

162 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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If you have power to the garage there is a very effective and simple way of dealing with this.
Obtain a small tubular electric green house heater, the ones I have is about 40 cms long and 80 watts, so not much more than old fashioned light bulb. . Mount on a piece of wood, I cover the wood with tin foil first. Place under bike sump. Put cover over bike, I use an Oxford products indoor cover that nearly reaches the floor.
The green house heater has a thermostat, so when it gets cold it comes on.
This generates enough heat under the cover to prevent condensation on the bike.
I have an xjr1300 which has unprotected polished alloy parts, it’s in a concrete sectional garage, after this winter, there is no evidence of corrosion or furring of the alloy.

Rick448

1,697 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Stevemr said:
If you have power to the garage there is a very effective and simple way of dealing with this.
Obtain a small tubular electric green house heater, the ones I have is about 40 cms long and 80 watts, so not much more than old fashioned light bulb. . Mount on a piece of wood, I cover the wood with tin foil first. Place under bike sump. Put cover over bike, I use an Oxford products indoor cover that nearly reaches the floor.
The green house heater has a thermostat, so when it gets cold it comes on.
This generates enough heat under the cover to prevent condensation on the bike.
I have an xjr1300 which has unprotected polished alloy parts, it’s in a concrete sectional garage, after this winter, there is no evidence of corrosion or furring of the alloy.
Great idea.

xeny

4,590 posts

84 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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DickP said:
Thanks but don't think I can apply that ACF 50 onto the brakes or chain??
I'd hope the chain has some lubricant on it? Brake discs tend to sort themselves out with a mile or two of riding.

Drezza

1,438 posts

60 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Put up a wooden shed and keep it in that instead? No issues with corrosion on mine in 4 years. Or cover it in ACF50

airsafari87

2,813 posts

188 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Stevemr said:
If you have power to the garage there is a very effective and simple way of dealing with this.
Obtain a small tubular electric green house heater, the ones I have is about 40 cms long and 80 watts, so not much more than old fashioned light bulb. . Mount on a piece of wood, I cover the wood with tin foil first. Place under bike sump. Put cover over bike, I use an Oxford products indoor cover that nearly reaches the floor.
The green house heater has a thermostat, so when it gets cold it comes on.
This generates enough heat under the cover to prevent condensation on the bike.
I have an xjr1300 which has unprotected polished alloy parts, it’s in a concrete sectional garage, after this winter, there is no evidence of corrosion or furring of the alloy.
Strangely enough this is exactly what I do.

Glad I'm not the only one who does it.

Max5476

1,000 posts

120 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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One of the carcoon bike bubbles?

Fortunately I've never had an issue with condensation in my garages so don't have any experience in them

Rick448

1,697 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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What about a dehumidifier?

KTMsm

27,473 posts

269 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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The issue is the roof - really you need to insulate it - sticking 25mm of celotex to it would transform it

Whilst people say to ventilate - in winter months it's not enough IME, not with a steel roof although more vents can't hurt

Zarco

18,393 posts

215 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Leave it outside.

Speed addicted

5,689 posts

233 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Could you insulate the garage? I’m storing my bikes in a container (house renovation are the garage fund) and fully insulated it with reflective bubble wrap stuff. Pretty much condensation free, no issues with corrosion.

Wacky Racer

38,824 posts

253 months

Sunday 30th January 2022
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Keep it in the house smile


Biker 1

7,859 posts

125 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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+1 on the insulation.
BUT: if its a tin roof, it will still condensate, so you could think about spraying foam insulation from underneath, which is a VERY messy business.

Best option is to remove the roof completely & install a composite 'warm roof' something like this: https://www.steelroofsheets.co.uk/products/ks1000r...

Offcuts are available from eBay etc.

Insulate walls internally with Celotex or equivalent rigid insulation/vapour control membrane, & install a greenhouse heater to avoid frost....

Drawweight

3,059 posts

122 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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You might be better forgetting the garage altogether and sticking it under a decent bike cover.

I used covers for many years and corrosion was never a problem.

I don’t know if a cover inside the garage would work as you wouldn’t be getting a decent airflow and the dampness would still be in the air.

caley64

124 posts

228 months

Monday 31st January 2022
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Get a Vac Bag.
Basically a big plastic bag, vacuum out air, seal bag.
If you are flush, try Permabag.
I've got both and they work fine and no power required.