Do drivers and riders see differently?
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Do drivers and riders see differently? Yes, according to Bournemouth University's latest findings.
A road safety study headed up by a team at Bournemouth University has found that drivers and riders on the road have very different visual perceptions of what is going on around them. In real terms, the study has found that motorcyclists see (or possibly are looking for) completely different things when compared to their four-wheeled counterparts.[It] also found that a motorcyclist’s identification, perception, and knowledge of potential risks would change depending on their motorcycling qualifications
A road safety study headed up by a team at Bournemouth University has found that drivers and riders on the road have very different visual perceptions of what is going on around them. In real terms, the study has found that motorcyclists see (or possibly are looking for) completely different things when compared to their four-wheeled counterparts.[It] also found that a motorcyclist’s identification, perception, and knowledge of potential risks would change depending on their motorcycling qualifications
Bournemouth University said:
an effective way for a motorcyclist to be seen when approaching a junction is to make a lateral movement such as moving towards the centre of the road near the white lines. This is because the movement of the motorcycle can trigger a visual orienting response in other road users, consequently drawing their attention to the motorcyclist.
Indeed, this SMIDSY solution has been hypothesised and taught in advanced courses. But I hadn’t seen rigorous evidence from a university re: lateral movement reducing the chances of a SMIDSY.
And why is it only taught in advanced training? SMIDSYs and how to avoid them should be in learner training, too.
And why is it only taught in advanced training? SMIDSYs and how to avoid them should be in learner training, too.
https://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilot-teach-cy...
An old site post but I found it really interesting and relevant.
An old site post but I found it really interesting and relevant.
TimmyMallett said:
https://www.londoncyclist.co.uk/raf-pilot-teach-cy...
An old site post but I found it really interesting and relevant.
I've come across that page before, a very interesting read.An old site post but I found it really interesting and relevant.
Loosely related, but this video is worth a watch. A crossroad junction, completely open and with excellent visibility, yet it's one of the most dangerous accident blackspots...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYeeTvitvFU
I see things differently in car, motorbike, pushbike and walking. For example there are roads that I know well in a car which look like an entirely new place on a push bike.
We all know the people who say they would kill them shelves if they rode a motorbike. I always say to them when you are on a bike you see everything differently. I suppose some don’t but I’d be a lot more surprised if the findings of the study were the opposite.
We all know the people who say they would kill them shelves if they rode a motorbike. I always say to them when you are on a bike you see everything differently. I suppose some don’t but I’d be a lot more surprised if the findings of the study were the opposite.
I used to live near to a roundabout that had a zebra crossing very close. It was a top place for nearly getting skittled as a pedestrian on a regular basis.
The driver negotiates the roundabout and the eyes skip to the middle distance to sort out the next stretch of road, totally bypassing the crossing nearby. Classic saccadic masking.
The driver negotiates the roundabout and the eyes skip to the middle distance to sort out the next stretch of road, totally bypassing the crossing nearby. Classic saccadic masking.
Salted_Peanut said:
Do drivers and riders see differently? Yes, according to Bournemouth University's latest findings.
A road safety study headed up by a team at Bournemouth University has found that drivers and riders on the road have very different visual perceptions of what is going on around them. In real terms, the study has found that motorcyclists see (or possibly are looking for) completely different things when compared to their four-wheeled counterparts.[It] also found that a motorcyclist’s identification, perception, and knowledge of potential risks would change depending on their motorcycling qualifications
So what they're saying is that a car driver is like a T-rex?A road safety study headed up by a team at Bournemouth University has found that drivers and riders on the road have very different visual perceptions of what is going on around them. In real terms, the study has found that motorcyclists see (or possibly are looking for) completely different things when compared to their four-wheeled counterparts.[It] also found that a motorcyclist’s identification, perception, and knowledge of potential risks would change depending on their motorcycling qualifications
Bournemouth University said:
an effective way for a motorcyclist to be seen when approaching a junction is to make a lateral movement such as moving towards the centre of the road near the white lines. This is because the movement of the motorcycle can trigger a visual orienting response in other road users, consequently drawing their attention to the motorcyclist.
You can also blame the massive pillars on modern cars needed to pass safety tests, and the angle of them to make them aerodynamic and efficient. My 2008 Civic is so much harder to see out of than my 1965 Mustang. I've nearly been caught out by cars hiding in my blind spot a couple of times on these dreary mornings so a cyclist would be easy to miss.
Cars have been made safer at the expense of other road users.
I'm sure a read years ago that some laws/regs said you couldn't have 2 A-pillars but many people carriers do. How on earth do you see out of Ford Galaxy for example?
Cars have been made safer at the expense of other road users.
I'm sure a read years ago that some laws/regs said you couldn't have 2 A-pillars but many people carriers do. How on earth do you see out of Ford Galaxy for example?
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