New Bike Lock = Ye Gods!
Discussion
UK based manufacturer claim it is:
1) Impregnable
2) 100% Secure
3) A visual deterrent - Yep!
Priced at £1500 is it a lot of money but surely anyone finding this in a garage is going to be deterred. Due to the thickness of plate, all but a 9" Stihl grinder will bog down and we know how loud they are. I would expect it to take 30 minutes to defeat with a team of 2 people with Stihl saws and the third with "Jaws of Life". It weighs in at 85KG and is delivered on a pallet.
Uses the Stronghold SS100CS padlock which alone is £300 and requires two keys..
So I rang the manufacturer and spoke with them at length today. It is what it is. A big heavy duty lump of steel with wall thicknesses 6 to 12mm! It is bolted through the floor too.
Finally a product that I think will survive all but most attacks. So after you've all stopped laughing do you think it will do the job?
https://motolocksecure.com/
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/motorbike-crim...
1) Impregnable
2) 100% Secure
3) A visual deterrent - Yep!
Priced at £1500 is it a lot of money but surely anyone finding this in a garage is going to be deterred. Due to the thickness of plate, all but a 9" Stihl grinder will bog down and we know how loud they are. I would expect it to take 30 minutes to defeat with a team of 2 people with Stihl saws and the third with "Jaws of Life". It weighs in at 85KG and is delivered on a pallet.
Uses the Stronghold SS100CS padlock which alone is £300 and requires two keys..
So I rang the manufacturer and spoke with them at length today. It is what it is. A big heavy duty lump of steel with wall thicknesses 6 to 12mm! It is bolted through the floor too.
Finally a product that I think will survive all but most attacks. So after you've all stopped laughing do you think it will do the job?
https://motolocksecure.com/
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/motorbike-crim...
Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper
Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
There is a similar but much cheaper device marketed for dirt bikes that clamps the rear wheel
I'll stick with my garage, a decent chain and alarm
Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
There is a similar but much cheaper device marketed for dirt bikes that clamps the rear wheel
I'll stick with my garage, a decent chain and alarm
To see how big the lock actually is:
https://youtu.be/nwgwCmh7SGg
It takes him about two minutes to pick, but he is a world class lockpicker!
https://youtu.be/nwgwCmh7SGg
It takes him about two minutes to pick, but he is a world class lockpicker!
KTMsm said:
Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper
Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
I notice that the lock shroud is only welded externally; that makes it fairly easy to rip the front plate off to access the lock itself.Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
Yup, five minutes to slacken everything off and cut the brake hoses, two guys to lift the whole front end off the forks, you run it up a ramp into a van and balance it on a box.
Rubin215 said:
KTMsm said:
Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper
Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
I notice that the lock shroud is only welded externally; that makes it fairly easy to rip the front plate off to access the lock itself.Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
Yup, five minutes to slacken everything off and cut the brake hoses, two guys to lift the whole front end off the forks, you run it up a ramp into a van and balance it on a box.
Pothole said:
But really, how many potential thieves are likely to do this for the vast majority of bikes? £20k plus machinery MAYBE, but our run of the mill, ubiquitous stuff? Nah.
We had our site containers regularly broken into - looking for tools or boilers, usual haul was less than £3kI agree it's unlikely to happen but I'd suggest decent locks and an alarm would achieve the same result
Regardless it's been designed by someone who has never seen how such thing are attacked - that's similar to how container lock boxes were strengthened 30 years ago - then they were improved over time
KTMsm said:
We had our site containers regularly broken into - looking for tools or boilers, usual haul was less than £3k
I agree it's unlikely to happen but I'd suggest decent locks and an alarm would achieve the same result
Regardless it's been designed by someone who has never seen how such thing are attacked - that's similar to how container lock boxes were strengthened 30 years ago - then they were improved over time
Decent locks and an alarm, without some kind of ground anchor, can still be lifted into a van. I guess this thing could be too, but not as easily. My point, though, was specifically about the flippant "well the thieves will just drop the forks out of the yokes" idea. I think that's a bit far-fetched.I agree it's unlikely to happen but I'd suggest decent locks and an alarm would achieve the same result
Regardless it's been designed by someone who has never seen how such thing are attacked - that's similar to how container lock boxes were strengthened 30 years ago - then they were improved over time
Pothole said:
Decent locks and an alarm, without some kind of ground anchor, can still be lifted into a van. I guess this thing could be too, but not as easily.
My point, though, was specifically about the flippant "well the thieves will just drop the forks out of the yokes" idea. I think that's a bit far-fetched.
I've got multiple bikes all locked togetherMy point, though, was specifically about the flippant "well the thieves will just drop the forks out of the yokes" idea. I think that's a bit far-fetched.
Agreed - they'd just cut / smash them off
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