New Bike Lock = Ye Gods!

New Bike Lock = Ye Gods!

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LordFlathead

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9,643 posts

264 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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UK based manufacturer claim it is:

1) Impregnable

2) 100% Secure

3) A visual deterrent - Yep!

Priced at £1500 is it a lot of money but surely anyone finding this in a garage is going to be deterred. Due to the thickness of plate, all but a 9" Stihl grinder will bog down and we know how loud they are. I would expect it to take 30 minutes to defeat with a team of 2 people with Stihl saws and the third with "Jaws of Life". It weighs in at 85KG and is delivered on a pallet.

Uses the Stronghold SS100CS padlock which alone is £300 and requires two keys..

So I rang the manufacturer and spoke with them at length today. It is what it is. A big heavy duty lump of steel with wall thicknesses 6 to 12mm! It is bolted through the floor too.

Finally a product that I think will survive all but most attacks. So after you've all stopped laughing do you think it will do the job? biggrin



https://motolocksecure.com/

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/motorbike-crim...

talksthetorque

10,820 posts

141 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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The lock goes under the cowl that the handle with the lock on is attached to


Still a bugger to tether it to the pillion perch so you can take it to Matlock Bath though.

SlimJim16v

6,022 posts

149 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Loosen yolks, drop forks out, take the rest.

KTMsm

27,482 posts

269 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper

Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks

There is a similar but much cheaper device marketed for dirt bikes that clamps the rear wheel

I'll stick with my garage, a decent chain and alarm

FunkyNige

9,070 posts

281 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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To see how big the lock actually is:
https://youtu.be/nwgwCmh7SGg

It takes him about two minutes to pick, but he is a world class lockpicker!

Rubin215

4,085 posts

162 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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KTMsm said:
Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper

Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
I notice that the lock shroud is only welded externally; that makes it fairly easy to rip the front plate off to access the lock itself.

Yup, five minutes to slacken everything off and cut the brake hoses, two guys to lift the whole front end off the forks, you run it up a ramp into a van and balance it on a box.

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Monday 11th October 2021
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Rubin215 said:
KTMsm said:
Poor design - they haven't even copied the better container locks and I've seen them cut off, an integrated lock would be better and cheaper

Personally I'd cut or unbolt the forks
I notice that the lock shroud is only welded externally; that makes it fairly easy to rip the front plate off to access the lock itself.

Yup, five minutes to slacken everything off and cut the brake hoses, two guys to lift the whole front end off the forks, you run it up a ramp into a van and balance it on a box.
But really, how many potential thieves are likely to do this for the vast majority of bikes? £20k plus machinery MAYBE, but our run of the mill, ubiquitous stuff? Nah.

jjones

4,435 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Impregnable? No chance.

KTMsm

27,482 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Pothole said:
But really, how many potential thieves are likely to do this for the vast majority of bikes? £20k plus machinery MAYBE, but our run of the mill, ubiquitous stuff? Nah.
We had our site containers regularly broken into - looking for tools or boilers, usual haul was less than £3k

I agree it's unlikely to happen but I'd suggest decent locks and an alarm would achieve the same result

Regardless it's been designed by someone who has never seen how such thing are attacked - that's similar to how container lock boxes were strengthened 30 years ago - then they were improved over time

8IKERDAVE

2,408 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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I'm feeling there's quite a few bike thieves on here biggrin

Pothole

34,367 posts

288 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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KTMsm said:
We had our site containers regularly broken into - looking for tools or boilers, usual haul was less than £3k

I agree it's unlikely to happen but I'd suggest decent locks and an alarm would achieve the same result

Regardless it's been designed by someone who has never seen how such thing are attacked - that's similar to how container lock boxes were strengthened 30 years ago - then they were improved over time
Decent locks and an alarm, without some kind of ground anchor, can still be lifted into a van. I guess this thing could be too, but not as easily. My point, though, was specifically about the flippant "well the thieves will just drop the forks out of the yokes" idea. I think that's a bit far-fetched.

ChocolateFrog

27,856 posts

179 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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The lockpickinglawyer would still have it open in a couple of minutes.

Similarly with pushbikes it's now often quicker just to cut the frame in half to get at the components.

KTMsm

27,482 posts

269 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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Pothole said:
Decent locks and an alarm, without some kind of ground anchor, can still be lifted into a van. I guess this thing could be too, but not as easily.

My point, though, was specifically about the flippant "well the thieves will just drop the forks out of the yokes" idea. I think that's a bit far-fetched.
I've got multiple bikes all locked together

Agreed - they'd just cut / smash them off

LordFlathead

Original Poster:

9,643 posts

264 months

Tuesday 12th October 2021
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When I first saw this it reminded me of K9 out of Doctor Who hehe

He should make a silver K9 edition biggrin