Back on a bike after 10 years...insurance ??

Back on a bike after 10 years...insurance ??

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Blowfish

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298 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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Been thinking of getting a superbike again after a several year break. Was about to put a deposit down on a V2 and just run several Insurance quotes. All quotes so far have been ridiculously expensive.
Can anyone recommend me someone cheap to try before I give up on the idea?

Rubin215

4,085 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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I have always found the online comparison sites, go compare etc, to be the best.

The old days of your high street broker ducking and diving to get you the most competitive quote are long gone.

trickywoo

12,227 posts

236 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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The time you’ve owned a bike makes a big difference for some reason. If it’s practical you could buy it now and insure it in spring next year. I’ve got full NCD and time of ownership still makes a big percentage difference.

Other option is to get a cheap to insure bike now and get one years NCD.

WarnieV6GT

1,139 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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10 year gap with obviously no no-claims, and then straight in on a 20k sports bike and a Ducati at that.

Its never going to be cheap. You might have to ease yourself back in 1st on an older cheaper sportsbike and get the Ducati next year.

black-k1

12,139 posts

235 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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trickywoo said:
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Other option is to get a cheap to insure bike now and get one years NCD.
I'd suggest this is the best option. How you got your NCD doesn't matter.

carinaman

21,898 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Use an online quote comparison site to get quotes for other more affordable bikes. Get a V2 or another superbike after getting 2-3 years NCB on the motorcycle?

TT1138

739 posts

140 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Blowfish said:
Been thinking of getting a superbike again after a several year break. Was about to put a deposit down on a V2 and just run several Insurance quotes. All quotes so far have been ridiculously expensive.
Can anyone recommend me someone cheap to try before I give up on the idea?
I’m never going to stick up for insurers but you’ve not ridden for 10 years and you’re attempting to jump straight onto a Ducati super(ish)bike. For them that ticks a lot of high risk boxes.

As others have said get yourself something cheap and modestly powered for a year. Your insurance cost will likely drop dramatically.

Drawweight

3,060 posts

122 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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What range of quotations are you getting?

Your idea of outrageous might be someone else’s perfectly normal.

Have you had that kind/value of bike before and have something to compare it against?

bogie

16,571 posts

278 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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The first 2 years back on a bike is almost as much risk as the first 2 years post test as far as insurance company is concerned. After 2 years the quotes should be 50-60% cheaper.

The choice is buy something less powerful and/or cheaper for a year or two or just pay the price they want until you get some NCB

When I started riding again after an enforced break my insurance on a high group sports bike started at £550 but reduced to £150 over the following few years (42 yrs old at the time in a rural area, with garage)

Edited by bogie on Wednesday 4th August 10:02

B'stard Child

29,092 posts

252 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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I had a gap year from motorcyles that lasted long enough for my old NCB to be void

Insurance quote for even run of the mill modern middlewights was shocking

So I bought a GPz600r from mid eighties and the “classic” policy was far more reasonable

After a couple of years with fresh NCB - I can insure anything at a reasonable premium

dibblecorse

6,944 posts

198 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Blowfish said:
Been thinking of getting a superbike again after a several year break. Was about to put a deposit down on a V2 and just run several Insurance quotes. All quotes so far have been ridiculously expensive.
Can anyone recommend me someone cheap to try before I give up on the idea?
V2 + No NCD + No bike for ten years = Big premium (+ a possible high risk post code + maybe the odd set of points) might = ridiculous premium.

As others have said, its probably the bike, run the same quote on something more normal, SV650 / Monster 821 etc and see what the prices are like.

There are no shortcuts.

Mr_Megalomaniac

870 posts

72 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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In addition to what others have written here, which I agree with, I would say that Bennetts was able to provide a better quote for me than most other insurers. They've also managed to beat the renewal quotes for 2 years now as well. Seems being bike-centric gives them better focus on their market.

Blowfish

Original Poster:

298 posts

153 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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They was north of £2k but after a bit of shopping about today I’m down to £900

Drawweight said:
What range of quotations are you getting?

Your idea of outrageous might be someone else’s perfectly normal.

Have you had that kind/value of bike before and have something to compare it against?

Jag_NE

3,074 posts

106 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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If you can afford a 20k bike I’m assuming 900 quid on insurance won’t keep you awake at night. Just suck it up and it will tumble into years 2 and 3.

Cosworth4388

75 posts

91 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Be been out of bikes for 12 years (I am now 50), this February I bought a Kawasaki ZX7r no no claims clean licence £177 .

March I bought a brand new Ducati monster 1200s new policy £405 fully comp .
June I bought a 1998 Yamaha R1 fully comp £270
This week I bought a Ducati panigale 1299s another new policy £375 fully comp

Next year when I have one years no claims I’ll see if I can get a decent price on a multi bike policy

All of the above bikes are from using compare the market , and all the bikes are insured through Hastings direct , what I will say though is Hastings were almost always the best price BUT when you click on the quote and the “go to provider link “ all the prices dropped by over 10%

The 1299s was £435 clicked on the Hastings link paid for it on their site and the price was down to £375


I’d like to add that on a daily basis the quote prices could change dramatically but I’m assuming I am in a good post code , I’ve a clean licence and never had a claim in the last 20 years either fault or non fault

Edited by Cosworth4388 on Wednesday 4th August 21:35

_Neal_

2,754 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
In addition to what others have written here, which I agree with, I would say that Bennetts was able to provide a better quote for me than most other insurers. They've also managed to beat the renewal quotes for 2 years now as well. Seems being bike-centric gives them better focus on their market.
+1 for this from me. I had 10+ years out of biking and came back last year (admittedly not to sportsbikes, but London postcode and commuting) and 1 year of no claims/riding experiecne dropped my premium by a chunky amount on renewal this year, at least with Bennetts - dropped from c.£400 to less than £200 for the same bike. Beat my renewal quote too.

As said above though you may be okay with £900 for a bike of that performance, desirability and value - doesn't seem massively OTT to me to be honest.


croyde

23,742 posts

236 months

Wednesday 4th August 2021
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I was in a SW London postcode 2 years ago.

Was 56, 10 years plus NCB, clean licence, been riding since I was 17.

My Vespa 300 was £400.....third party only. Cheapest quote by miles.

Think yourself lucky hehe

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th August 2021
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I had a 10 year break from Bike ownership and let my full NCB lapse too.

Really wish I'd kept something small and cheap at the back of the garage insured 3rd party and SORNed - but hindsight is pointless.

I bought a cheaper bike to build up some NCB again. Now I've got 2 years NCB I'm getting much more reasonable quotes on nicer bikes.

As others have said - the actuaries assess returning bikers as high risk for a reason. It took me a few months before my low speed control and cornering confidence were what they were and I had a few moments.

Edited by Seight_Returns on Thursday 5th August 13:59

nxi20

780 posts

211 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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The V2 is simply an expensive bike to insure. I had a Suzuki 650 Bandit insured with Bennets for 8 years, no claims & no points. I'm 63, had a license since 17 and live in a "low risk" area with the bike locked in an alarmed garage. First year on the V2 was £380, Added a BMW S1000R to replace the 650 - another £350 adjustment to cover the remaining 10 months on a multi-bike policy. This year, renewed for £530 for the pair. Both bikes have a 4,000 mile limit on each.

MOBB

3,771 posts

133 months

Monday 9th August 2021
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MCE (I think) gave me a year's NCD discount FOC when I did something similar, made it more palatable.