Suzuki GSX-S950

[Ecosseven]

I see that Suzuki are going to launch an A2 1000cc bike in the new GSX-S950. Seems to be a mixture of the new GSX-S1000 but with cheaper forks, bars and brakes. It produces 94bhp in unrestricted format.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/suzu...

Seems a strange choice for an A2 bike and I'm not a fan of the styling but the smooth torque rich engine should be nice.

Any guesses on price? MCN are saying it should compete with the CB650R, Triumph Trident and the MT-07..............

The SV650 is £6.5k and the GSX-S750 (which makes 113bhp) is £8k.

My guess would be around £8k.

[Birky_41]

WTF? Why not just use the 750

Why sleeve a thou to 950?

[Jazoli]

Whoever is head of the styling department at Suzuki needs sacking, the latest bikes are terrible looking things.

[Ecosseven]

Birky_41 said:

WTF? Why not just use the 750

Why sleeve a thou to 950?

The engine is still 999cc they have just restricted the power to 94bhp. Looks another parts bin special but will be interested to read the reviews when they come out. I suppose I can see the appeal in the low down torque and enough power for the road. Just seems a strange choice of engine for an A2 bike.

[Birky_41]

Ecosseven said:

Birky_41 said:

WTF? Why not just use the 750

Why sleeve a thou to 950?

The engine is still 999cc they have just restricted the power to 94bhp. Looks another parts bin special but will be interested to read the reviews when they come out. I suppose I can see the appeal in the low down torque and enough power for the road. Just seems a strange choice of engine for an A2 bike.

Ah ok that makes more sense. Does seem strange will have some torque though!

[Biker 1]

Jazoli said:

Whoever is head of the styling department at Suzuki needs sacking, the latest bikes are terrible looking things.

Yamaha aren't much better - revised MT series headlights are bloody awful!

[Jazoli]

Biker 1 said:

Jazoli said:

Whoever is head of the styling department at Suzuki needs sacking, the latest bikes are terrible looking things.

Yamaha aren't much better - revised MT series headlights are bloody awful!

Thinking about it most of the naked Japanese bikes are fugly, MT10, MT09, Z650, Z900, H2SX, GSX-S (all of them), I think the Honda's (CB) are quite good looking, the European bikes are much better resolved.

[hiccy18]

At £8k it'll be an utter steal compared to its rivals, however the capacity could work against it when it comes to insurance and I'm struggling to see how 999cc is a middleweight!

[Ecosseven]

Ecosseven said:

I see that Suzuki are going to launch an A2 1000cc bike in the new GSX-S950. Seems to be a mixture of the new GSX-S1000 but with cheaper forks, bars and brakes. It produces 94bhp in unrestricted format.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/suzu...

Seems a strange choice for an A2 bike and I'm not a fan of the styling but the smooth torque rich engine should be nice.

Any guesses on price? MCN are saying it should compete with the CB650R, Triumph Trident and the MT-07..............

The SV650 is £6.5k and the GSX-S750 (which makes 113bhp) is £8k.

My guess would be around £8k.

So looks like I was a mile off when I guessed at £8k. Suzuki have announced the bike will cost £9,999.

I wonder if they will refresh the GSX-S750? That bike is £8k but good discounts are usually available.

[trickywoo]

£10k is way too much.

Is this a wink, wink, nudge, nudge bike whereby an owner can easily up the power while still on the face of it being A2?

If it’s just an A2 bike I can’t see them selling any at this price.

[Drawweight]

It’s possible they could be aiming it at the A2 market of people after a ‘big’ bike that they can deristrict afterwards.

Mates son is a big lad and dwarfed the KTM 390 be had so has moved onto a restricted Versys 650 but when he’s old enough he’s going to be upgrading again.

The new Suzuki might have been an alternative and big enough for him to keep.

[carinaman]

It's a detuned GSX-S1000 just as there's a detuned Z900. The full fat Z900 is 123bhp or so, that and the GSX-S1000 are too powerful to be restricted to meet the A2 requirements. So it's a Suzuki equivalent of the A2 version of the Z900 that's about 94bhp. I can't remember which one it is but I think the 94bhp Z900 that be restricted to meet the A2 requirements has grey coloured cam covers.

I am not aware of mods that allows the 94bhp Z900 to become the full fat 123bhp Z900.

I don't need to know about A2 licence requirements so don't, but I think the rule may be that the motorcycle that's restricted to meet the A2 requirements can only make double the A2 power, but I could be completely wrong on that.

That's why the Street Triple 660 exists because the 765 Street Triple is too powerful to be restricted down to the A2 licence limits.

The full fat Z900 was £9899 or £9999 when that was released a few years ago.

I guess the price may be an issue an issue if you are considering another bike in that ball park price range? 'For that money or a bit more I could get the GSX-S950' man maths type reasoning.

Will most of these be bought on a PCP so it'll be how attractive the monthly payments are?

Out of the box the Suzuki will have a less snatchy at low speed throttle than the Z900?

Edited by carinaman on Wednesday 6th October 09:37

[snagzie]

Ecosseven said:

Birky_41 said:

WTF? Why not just use the 750

Why sleeve a thou to 950?

The engine is still 999cc they have just restricted the power to 94bhp. Looks another parts bin special but will be interested to read the reviews when they come out. I suppose I can see the appeal in the low down torque and enough power for the road. Just seems a strange choice of engine for an A2 bike.

You're triggering me calling it another parts bin special

(GSXS1000F owner)

[lukeyman]

It'll be discounted soon enough. The 1000 is supposed to be £11k but is available from £9300.

[carinaman]

At least one Suzuki dealer was advertising 3.5 years manufacturer warranty from date of Registration so buyers wouldn't be losing warranty while Pre-Regs are in the showrooms awaiting buyers.

Warranty is a consideration for me.

[snagzie]

lukeyman said:

It'll be discounted soon enough. The 1000 is supposed to be £11k but is available from £9300.

Thats what I got in June. Just FYI its £9300 plus on the road (cant remember what it was, just 6 months tax and an admin fee I think)

I'd never pay full price for a a few brands just because they stereotypically discount them heavily, Suzuki, KTM etc

[StonedRollin]

snagzie said:

You're triggering me calling it another parts bin special

(GSXS1000F owner)

What do you think about the GSXS1000F? I've just sold my old FJR and am on the lookout for one.

[gareth_r]

carinaman said:

...I don't need to know about A2 licence requirements so don't, but I think the rule may be that the motorcycle that's restricted to meet the A2 requirements can only make double the A2 power, but I could be completely wrong on that.

That's why the Street Triple 660 exists because the 765 Street Triple is too powerful to be restricted down to the A2 licence limits

That's correct.

The A2 limit is 35kW (c.47bhp) and the unrestricted version cannot produce more than 70kW.

The Trident and the 660cc version of the Street Triple exist because Australia and New Zealand have a capacity limit for learner bikes as well as a power limit.