Twinshock / pre 65 trials anyone done it?

Twinshock / pre 65 trials anyone done it?

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Duke Caboom

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205 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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I've done lots different forms of grassroots motorsports in cars, mostly classic cars. I've always fancied a go a trials, particularly twin shock or possibly pre '65.

I visited trials as a kid and have researched on Youtube so I understand the basics. I've also done various versions of trials in cars.

I wonder what a typical trial is like? One of the issues I've had with car events is that they often involve a lot of waiting. As in arrive at 7:30, scrutineer at 7:45, drivers' briefing at 8:30. First run at 9. Wait till everyone's done a run, do next run, etc until prize giving at 5:30. So you might be at the event for a long day but only actually drive for a small proportion of it.

Youtube videos seem to often show competitors watching each other, between turns, but it is difficult to see how long day lasts or how long the gap between each section is.

What is a local / regional trial like?

srob

11,808 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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I suspect it's a pretty long day.

I used to ride in pre-65 trials, well more specifically prat about as a kid on people's bikes while they weren't using them! That was with a club called the Dabbers, but I think they're a bit more formal now. Back then it was just the local old bike club wanting to do some riding during the winter.

I see you're in Norwich? I know they do the Dabbers at a farm in Thetford forest - or did pre-lockdown and are East Anglia based.

This is their site: http://www.dabberstrialsclub.co.uk/index.html - may be worth a mail to ask about a typical day?

It was always great fun when I did it!

wuckfitracing

990 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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New to Classic twinshock trialling around 2 years ago, and bearing in mind nothing happened for 12 months. My experience on the trials I have completed so far is, no scrutineering, sign on,briefing 9.30, start at 10 , fall off a lot ,done by 2 to 3pm. Home.

Duke Caboom

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Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Thanks for the replies. Are there larger tinder gaps between sections?

wuckfitracing

990 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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What gaps ?

Duke Caboom

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Tuesday 6th April 2021
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Sorry! TIME gaps!

When I do sprints, hillclimbing and autosolos / autotests, you might wait an hour between runs. Targa rallies and production car trials gaps are shorter, and therefore better.

Duke Caboom

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Tuesday 6th April 2021
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srob said:
I suspect it's a pretty long day.

I used to ride in pre-65 trials, well more specifically prat about as a kid on people's bikes while they weren't using them! That was with a club called the Dabbers, but I think they're a bit more formal now. Back then it was just the local old bike club wanting to do some riding during the winter.

I see you're in Norwich? I know they do the Dabbers at a farm in Thetford forest - or did pre-lockdown and are East Anglia based.

This is their site: http://www.dabberstrialsclub.co.uk/index.html - may be worth a mail to ask about a typical day?

It was always great fun when I did it!
Thanks.
I follow the Dabbers on FB and they do seem nice. I expect that's who I'll join if I do take it up. I didn't want to ask them this question and possibly appear to diss their hobby!

wuckfitracing

990 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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No gaps, normally a number of sections that you can just ride to . Often have to wait for a few minutes for your turn, but never waited more than 10 minutes. Its just a case of queue and ride. If its too busy on that section then find another less busy. You have to walk the section too, unless you`re brave and just see how it goes. It is very physical and you will get a good workout.

srob

11,808 posts

244 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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It may be more formal now but when I was doing it you’d take yourself off and ride about and practice on other sections if you were waiting!

Birky_41

4,359 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th April 2021
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I have twin shock but Mx not trials

Regardless there's big followings for the older stuff!

Lukas239

455 posts

102 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Have done twinshock trials in my infancy and dad still rides on occasion. It's super laid-back from what I did and was mostly linked to Dabbers as mentioned.

Turn-up, sign on, head off. Tends to be some bunching up on certain sections but never much more than 10 minutes. As said before, at the grass roots level it's mostly laid-back and as long as your not destroying sections or being deliberately obstructive, no one minds.

I miss it and as soon as it's back on coz-covid, I'll get back to it.

Duke Caboom

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205 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Thanks for all the replies. Really helpful.

Duke Caboom

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Monday 3rd May 2021
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Also, what gear other than a bike would a beginner need, just to have a go?

Would I need special helmet? I already have a open face bike helmet, somewhere. Boots?

Steve Bass

10,329 posts

239 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Duke Caboom said:
Also, what gear other than a bike would a beginner need, just to have a go?

Would I need special helmet? I already have a open face bike helmet, somewhere. Boots?
Trials helmets are cheap and easy and much lighter than a conventional lid.
Light gloves and boots. Don't use mx or enduro boots, too heavy and lack feel. Again, trials boots are cheap enough but make sure you have shin protection, easy to slip off and skin your shin
For 'armour ' I use mtb knee and elbow pads. Soft gel things attached to an elasticated sleeve. Plenty good for trials spills. Not good enough for enduro however, I've cracked a bone in my elbow from my latest enduro off......

Duke Caboom

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205 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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OP here - its my thread and I'll resurrect it if i wan to.

Some of the twin shock bikes seem to have fairly major modifications -such as different engines. IN the class car events I do this would be a massive no-no. But they also come with pages of rules and regs. Twin shock trials seems more laid back, but it doesn't seem in the spirit to turn up against 70s bikes in something with a 90's engine.

Steve Bass

10,329 posts

239 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Duke Caboom said:
OP here - its my thread and I'll resurrect it if i wan to.

Some of the twin shock bikes seem to have fairly major modifications -such as different engines. IN the class car events I do this would be a massive no-no. But they also come with pages of rules and regs. Twin shock trials seems more laid back, but it doesn't seem in the spirit to turn up against 70s bikes in something with a 90's engine.
You're probably over thinking this.
If parts aren't available, do you scrap the bike?
Nope, change the engine and continue to have fun....
If your first point of call is the regs you might not be prepared for the cut and thrust of twin shock trials.... rofl
It's not F1 wink

KTMsm

27,482 posts

269 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Duke Caboom said:
OP here - its my thread and I'll resurrect it if i wan to.

Some of the twin shock bikes seem to have fairly major modifications -such as different engines. IN the class car events I do this would be a massive no-no. But they also come with pages of rules and regs. Twin shock trials seems more laid back, but it doesn't seem in the spirit to turn up against 70s bikes in something with a 90's engine.
I'm not sure anyone has ever won a Trials event because they have a better engine - which presumably is why they don't care


cjb44

694 posts

124 months

Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Go Pre 65, you will love it. As previous posters have said it is fairly laid back, but you cannot get too ambitious with the trick bits as this will be frowned on. an enjoyable day, not much waiting around, done by 3 o clock. The EFA (Eastern Four Stroke Association) is the biggest Pre 65 club in East Anglia (note: they cater for two strokes as well) they are a good bunch and cater for all skill levels, I rode with them for many years until I migrated back to my favourite pastime in 1988 when the Pre 65 Motocross Club was formed.

Edited by cjb44 on Tuesday 26th October 15:31

Duke Caboom

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Tuesday 26th October 2021
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Thanks guys.

Its trials or a Midget Classic Rally car - I genuinely can't decide!

Duke Caboom

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Tuesday 26th October 2021
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The fact that trials seen to be in the winter might be a tipping point!