New tyres.. how old is acceptable?
New tyres.. how old is acceptable?
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fastbikes76

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2,450 posts

152 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Just had a new pair of tyres delivered and checked date codes on them .

The rear is dated 3rd week 2020 and front is dated 40th week 2019.

Out of curiosity, at what point do YOU decide your ‘new’ tyres have been kicking around too long ? Personally I’m not overly fussed with what I’ve been sent, don’t think I would want much older though. To put it in context, the tyres being removed are date coded 26/07 but are still the originals on my 2010 bike having covered 2700 miles now., so they were 3 years old when bike was new.


SAS Tom

3,755 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Not a surprise they have an old date code on them when that model has been replaced twice.

Those dates wouldn’t concern me though. I’ve got 2018 tyres on my bike and they’re fine. I’d probably go as far as 5 years but no more. When I got my current bike it had roughly 15 year old tyres and they were awful.

fastbikes76

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

152 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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SAS Tom said:
Not a surprise they have an old date code on them when that model has been replaced twice.

Those dates wouldn’t concern me though. I’ve got 2018 tyres on my bike and they’re fine. I’d probably go as far as 5 years but no more. When I got my current bike it had roughly 15 year old tyres and they were awful.
Sadly not a lot of choice in 200/50/17. A lot of guys drop down to the 190/55/17 with a world of options, tip in is better but contact patch is much smaller. I have an issue with wheel spin on overtakes as it is already but that may be down to aged tyres fitted. 30ft black stripes at 60+mph is not ideal for tyre wear... or my pacemaker biglaugh . Stuck with the 200 in the hopes fresh rubber and larger contact patch than the 190 will stop that shenanigans!

trickywoo

14,237 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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It wouldn't worry me to ride on those but I'd be a bit hacked off if I'd paid full price not knowing they were that old.

I used to buy quite a few tyres from Tyreleader and they always flagged up old tyres and they tended to be a worthwhile amount cheaper than new ones (or at least made within the the last six months).

Triaguar

928 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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I got a puncture in Spain a couple if years ago whilst racing for the ferry I was very lucky that I managed to limp to tyre place by sheer good fortune..

They fitted me a Pirelli rear tyre not the same as the front one but it was black and round and made by the same people so it had to do.. anyway you know how it is i never got round to changing it for quite a long time... when I did I was idly looking at it whilst they fit a new one and realised it was 11 years old... so dont stress about yours

Biker 1

8,597 posts

149 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Depends if tyres are stored in a rack out of the sun or not. If stored correctly I wouldn't be worried unless they're over 5 years old.
Anyway, how much are a decent set of tyres, fitted, these days? £300-ish - not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things.

moto_traxport

4,264 posts

251 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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SAS Tom said:
Not a surprise they have an old date code on them when that model has been replaced twice.
I’d be wary about newer production runs on old model Pirelli / Metzeler tyres.

I used to love their earliest Sportec M1 - very grippy if a little short lived. After they had been out of production for a few years I bought what I thought was cheap old stock but it turns out they had only just been made and they were not the same thing at all re grip / steering / longevity etc.

I believe they fill in production capacity using old pattern moulds to offer cheaper tyres to the market that’s not as fussy as those buying cutting edge latest stuff.

Sometimes they shift production of old patterns from Germany to China for example (saying so on the side to be fair) and they even feel different on the tyre machine let alone riding on it.

the cueball

1,911 posts

85 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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I run those tyres on my 12R, actually close to the same dates too..

They’ve been fine over in Germany at high Autobhan speeds, I wouldn’t worry about it.


fastbikes76

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

152 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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I’m not overly fussed by the age.. as I say 2019 is far better than the current 2007 tyres fitted hehe

I was more curious as to what point you would have ‘new’ tyres delivered/fitted and decide they are too old for your liking ? For me personally I think had these been dated 2018 or older I would have asked for a return and fresher stock resent . I don’t do mega miles so these will last me a good 3-4 years before needing another rear based on wear rather than age.

talksthetorque

10,821 posts

165 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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Going to change mine this year. Bought the bike second hand in October 2019 and the date codes are 2014 - Michelin Pilot Road 2s.
With it being my first year back after 20 years off I thought I'm not going to be pushing them while I get used to two wheels again so the rear is now nicely squared off and I am looking at what to replace them with.
Hmmm, maybe I'll start a "Which Tyre" thread biggrin


Rubin215 QFSM

4,201 posts

186 months

Tuesday 2nd March 2021
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talksthetorque said:
Going to change mine this year. Bought the bike second hand in October 2019 and the date codes are 2014 - Michelin Pilot Road 2s.
With it being my first year back after 20 years off I thought I'm not going to be pushing them while I get used to two wheels again so the rear is now nicely squared off and I am looking at what to replace them with.
Hmmm, maybe I'll start a "Which Tyre" thread biggrin
To which the answer is PR5.

Or not.

Bob_Defly

5,908 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Rubin215 QFSM said:
talksthetorque said:
Going to change mine this year. Bought the bike second hand in October 2019 and the date codes are 2014 - Michelin Pilot Road 2s.
With it being my first year back after 20 years off I thought I'm not going to be pushing them while I get used to two wheels again so the rear is now nicely squared off and I am looking at what to replace them with.
Hmmm, maybe I'll start a "Which Tyre" thread biggrin
To which the answer is PR5.

Or not.
Road 5.

fastbikes76

Original Poster:

2,450 posts

152 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Bob_Defly said:
Road 5.
I was hoping to fit Road 5’s but they dont do them in a 200. It seems to be the Metzelers or Pirelli diablo’s only in that size so went with the former.

Drawweight

3,611 posts

146 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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o/t a bit but an amusing little tale nonetheless.

I went to one of the bike shops in Edinburgh a few years ago to price up tyres.

The guy behind the counter priced up a few pairs and helpfully wrote the names and prices on a piece of paper.

When I next went up I ordered a pair of Rosso 2’s to pick up and fit myself and was surprised to be charged quite a bit more than I’d been quoted. I produced the piece of paper and the first guy had put the wrong price down.

They were good enough to stick to the original price.

Dog Star

17,628 posts

198 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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"2019 tyres old" rofl

Last year I changed the tyres on Mrs DSs R1..... date code 2005....

Biker 1

8,597 posts

149 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2021
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Could be worse. I bought an old Honda Civic car last year. Two original tyres from 1999!!!