Superbike Factory. Any experience?

Superbike Factory. Any experience?

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Davie_GLA

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6,665 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Evening all. First up I have nothing to do with this outfit and nothing to gain. I'd rather it not be deleted by a mod automagically deciding its some sort of advert so if it does break any rules then please let me know and I'll adjust before the thread is nuked.

Every now and then I'll have a nosey at the market and see if anything pops up that I fancy.

Having a browse around for (another) 5PW R1 you get the usual suspects of eBay, gumtree, 'trader, etc. and the odd local crowd.

Nothing really caught my eye or were very overpriced so I went on to do something else. Learning Python if it is of interest, enjoyable but quickly lost interest and decided to check FB for what crap was happening and an advert popped up on Marketplace. To this day I had never looked at it as never really had a need to and I was under the impression it's just more tat from local FB groups etc.

And there it was, a big bang R1 that I hadn't seen advertised anywhere else by a mob in Wales called "Superbike Factory". Loads of stuff that doesn't seem to pop up.

Anyway, long story short. Has anyone used them to buy a bike for cash or finance? The representative interest rates aren't particularly attractive.

As you select a bike they ask you to agree to a walk around vid, the detailed pics, and what history they have for the bike. Then, and only then can you make a serious enquiry about the bike, and then you can make a REFUNDABLE deposit to secure the bike.

I paused on this bike: https://superbikefactory.co.uk/2005-yamaha-r1-grey... and during the walk around the rep points out all of the marks and pulls a bit of the fairing away that's been broken. it looks like the bike has had some low-speed drops. I'm looking at the lower end of the market so I'm expecting some damage, marks, etc. Especially from a bit that is more than likely to have seen a track day or 2.

They will deliver the bike to my location for £240 apparently but I'm sure I could do this a little cheaper using my own courier. If the bike arrives and I notice something that makes me decide the bike isn't quite what it's meant to be, to Distance Selling Reg's still cover after them asking me to clearly click "I AM HAPPY" with everything they present?

Thanks!

arcticGT

980 posts

219 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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If it’s not as described when it arrives - then Yes. Suspect they do a lot of distance selling and this is why they point out anything obvious. Not sure how delivery charge would work though.

I also looked at a bike from them a few months back and thought the video was very honest. I didn’t go ahead as another came up at a mai. Dealer.

NS400R

483 posts

166 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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Superbike Factory are in Macclesfield. A pile 'em high, sell' em cheap kind of place. Quality of stock varies from superb to indifferent. You really need someone local to view the bike for you. Or make a trip yourself. But they are straight up honest operators if that helps.

Davie_GLA

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6,665 posts

206 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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NS400R said:
Superbike Factory are in Macclesfield. A pile 'em high, sell' em cheap kind of place. Quality of stock varies from superb to indifferent. You really need someone local to view the bike for you. Or make a trip yourself. But they are straight up honest operators if that helps.
Thanks, I was reading it and all I kept thinking about was a certain trading centre in Keighly but you're right. They seem honest and I'll see if I can organise some local support. I'm in Glasgow so the trip isn't out of the question but a fair old trek to come back empty handed.

Macclesfield, yes. No idea where i got Wales from.

rustfalia

1,935 posts

173 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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I went for a wonder around.
Quality varies especially on the older stuff, but that's like any older used bike.

Nothing would put me off buying from them if the price and the bike were right.


powerstroke

10,283 posts

167 months

Saturday 15th August 2020
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It's about selling finance just happens to be bikes !! , I looked round a few times mostly nice tidy bikes to be fair , if they have what you want and the deal is ok for you I don't see a problem ...

CallorFold

841 posts

140 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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I can report having a pretty good experience with them.

Called originally to enquire on a bike which the ad mentioned having FSH - phone enquiry revealed it didn't, and to be fair they did quickly update the ad to accurately reflect.

Ended up driving to Macclesfield and having a look around as it was a first big-bike purchase and I didn't really know what I wanted but they had a huge amount of stock.

Picked out a tidy looking XJ6 at a reasonable price, negotiated off the circa ~£100 Doc. fee, and the bike was prepped with a fresh MOT and ready for collection about week later.

Biggest piece of advice I could give would be to go and look at the bike(s) in person, the stock does vary, some very rusty stuff that's clearly been kept outside etc. and others without a mark on them.

V8RX7

27,661 posts

270 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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rustfalia said:
I went for a wonder around.
Quality varies especially on the older stuff, but that's like any older used bike.

Nothing would put me off buying from them if the price and the bike were right.
Can you even inspect the bikes ? They look tightly crammed in, in the pics I've seen

I was interested in two bikes they had, they seemed open enough but said you can't even sit on one ATM

Their prices were non negotiable - the bike I liked had free delivery but I'd rather visit and ride it home - no you can't unless you've agreed to buy it previously and no discount for collection.

the cueball

1,270 posts

62 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Never purchased from them, but sold my Harley to them and got a really good price IMO.

It was all really easy, someone picked it up and money was in my bank by the time he had loaded it up.

They did have a cracking gsxr750 in the van too...nearly tried to buy it! Lol


Davie_GLA

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6,665 posts

206 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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They seem as if they aren't willing to talk about any sort of deal until you have either agreed to a finance deal and gone through the application process or agreed to buy cash.

For either method, they want a £200 deposit which they say is refundable. So with the refundable deposit and the very detailed walk round and pictures as well as making the history public makes it a fairly attractive place to do a deal.

They also state that every bike will come with at least 3 months MOT and at my price point it's likely this will be a fresh MOT. I am under no illusions though and know that MOT's these days are very easy to obtain for mobs like this.

They are making their money from finance, but again this doesn't take a genius to work out after looking at the stock and doing a little research. They are also offering the modern-day equivalent of tyre insurance etc in the form of ceramic coating for the bikes.

I'm no expert on ceramic coating however on the cars I've seen it applied to it does seem to do the job but I'm not sure if it would work as well on a bike with limited surfaces such as fairing etc.
Certainly, after I've been out for a spirited ride the mike has gained a bit of mass from thousands of dead flies etc. that would be taken care of with whatever chosen chemical and some pressure washing. So I'm not sure how long the coating would last. The exposed metal bits would be caked in ACF 50 as we approached the autumn/winter etc.

So, to me, if I found a bike on the site, liked the condition, history, and price based on the info made available then all I need to do is pay them a couple of hundred quid and £240 to have it delivered. They must make a few quid on the delivery as well as I can't see them only delivering one bike at a time but what I haven't seen is something that says the bike needs paid in full or finance arranged and approved before it leaves the shop. If the latter then the £200 is just securing the bike and so long as I decide I don't want it before they start organising MOT's and delivery etc. then I would get a couple of hundred back.

I'll keep looking and maybe arrange a bit of a road trip.

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

90 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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I would think not happy and a refund would involve returing the bike at your own cost.
So £240 to deliver to you. Doubt that bit is refundable,
££ it costs for you to return it. Not refundable.
Could be £480 just to look a bike over. They probably love it.

Krikkit

26,992 posts

188 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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It's not exactly round the corner, but if it's not gone I'd be happy to give it a once-over next weekend. Got nothing doing except going out that way anyway I think.

TT1138

740 posts

141 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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For what it’s worth I’ve had dealings on two separate occasions with their salesmen when they’ve been trying to buy bikes I’ve had up for sale privately on Gumtree.

They always say that if you can’t say anything nice don’t say anything at all, so I’ll leave it there.

BobSaunders

3,042 posts

162 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Theres multiple threads on here about them - search function should help you.

There is some horror stories, some good. I know of one bad one personally via a friend. The business model is built on flipping second hand bikes, and they make no bones about it.

They have one location in Macclesfield, but due to open another in the south.

Trust pilot reviews;

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/superbikefactory....

Davie_GLA

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6,665 posts

206 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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Krikkit said:
It's not exactly round the corner, but if it's not gone I'd be happy to give it a once-over next weekend. Got nothing doing except going out that way anyway I think.
Appreciate that mate. I'm still swithering but will take you up on that and sort you out with something for the bother.

Davie_GLA

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6,665 posts

206 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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BobSaunders said:
Theres multiple threads on here about them - search function should help you.

There is some horror stories, some good. I know of one bad one personally via a friend. The business model is built on flipping second hand bikes, and they make no bones about it.

They have one location in Macclesfield, but due to open another in the south.

Trust pilot reviews;

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/superbikefactory....
Fair enough. I hadn't used the search function in a while as it was pretty rubbish. The results were all over the show but it looks to have been improved and there is plenty.

Same story though, so far noone has stated they aren't honest. They are up front about selling bikes that are far from perfect at the lower end of the numbers and for the more rare stuff the prices are much lower than market value for what I can see.

I also never knew Suzuki made a 1000cc GSXR1000R! Cool dash and a cooler £10k.

They seem to cover the after sales service too as they won't so much as start a deal until you confirm you are 100% happy with what youve seen online. I guess there is a grey area about damage incurred in transit and buyers not going in with their eyes wide open.

I'm also thinking about buying a bike in August, keeping it in Scotland and out doors. Might get a week or so use before march next year. I'm a very fair weather rider.

GTiWILL

780 posts

85 months

Sunday 16th August 2020
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I bought my old Street Triple from them.

It was a good experience. I called up and asked about the bike. The sales adviser said the bike was easy to describe as it was absolutely mint and looked like it had lived a pampered life. He sent out various high quality images of the bike which backed up the description. I then negotiated a discount along with free delivery and p/ex for my old bike. I paid a deposit to SBF and the bike was delivered when promised. The bike was exactly as described, so I signed the order form and paid SBF the balance over the phone.


Fire99

9,849 posts

236 months

Monday 17th August 2020
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A mate of mine from Ireland bought a bike for his sister. Did all the arrangements remotely and then flew over and rode it back. A little Kawasaki Z300. It was in great condition and not a bad price. I don't think there is too much room to negotiate price with them. It is what it is, but I remember it well and as big ol bike shops go, they were pretty straight forward and no fuss.
I'd buy a bike from them.

308mate

13,757 posts

229 months

Friday 21st August 2020
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Work colleague of mine got rinsed on a shonky CB1000R, even after he asked me and I suggested there were more reputable traders around for first bike (i.e. he didn't really know what he was doing and they knew it). To be fair I think they put right all the things that were ste on it but only after a lot of hassle and back and forth.

A500leroy

5,589 posts

125 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Anyone know if they are willing to move bikes between sites to view then deliver it?
Found one in Macc, but would prefer to view at Donington.