Full bike test without instructor on own bike
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Hi all,
Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?
I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.
I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.
Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?
I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.
I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.
Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
Of course he had to take the initial CBT to gain his L plates at a CBT training centre for the day.
We booked online for him to take the theory test. Once that was gained we cracked on.
Then I trained him to do his mod 1 on an abandoned pub car park in our village. All the measurements for the placement of the cones are online. We then booked his mod 1 test online and turned up on the date on his own 125 bike and passed first time.
Then I taught him for what was required on the road using an intercom set and we went riding around the roads in the area of the test centre.
Again on line we booked a mod 2 test date, again he passed first time.
Regarding the motorcycle, the test centre examiner always check the bike is road worthy before test starts.
So no you dont need an instructor, you need a legal road worthy insured motorcycle and book a test date on line.
Of course he had to take the initial CBT to gain his L plates at a CBT training centre for the day.
We booked online for him to take the theory test. Once that was gained we cracked on.
Then I trained him to do his mod 1 on an abandoned pub car park in our village. All the measurements for the placement of the cones are online. We then booked his mod 1 test online and turned up on the date on his own 125 bike and passed first time.
Then I taught him for what was required on the road using an intercom set and we went riding around the roads in the area of the test centre.
Again on line we booked a mod 2 test date, again he passed first time.
Regarding the motorcycle, the test centre examiner always check the bike is road worthy before test starts.
So no you dont need an instructor, you need a legal road worthy insured motorcycle and book a test date on line.
Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 18:02
I DIY'd my A license going from A2.. Mind you I wouldn't recommend doing it the way I did.
I bought a FZS600 which I had been using on my A2 "restricted I swear guv".
Rode it to just down the road of the test centre, pushed it in "just been dropped off in the van I said". Examiners didn't believe me and gave me a right grilling, MOD 1 guy was sound about it and was sympathetic to the stupid rules. MOD 2 guy was clearly an ex cop jobs worth who said he'd have DVLA with mobile dyno in the carpark so I st myself, took me 3 times to pass MOD 2 with the same guy and I think he took pity in the end and passed me.
If I were to do it again I think I'd just pay an instructor, as you should buy test insurance.
I bought a FZS600 which I had been using on my A2 "restricted I swear guv".
Rode it to just down the road of the test centre, pushed it in "just been dropped off in the van I said". Examiners didn't believe me and gave me a right grilling, MOD 1 guy was sound about it and was sympathetic to the stupid rules. MOD 2 guy was clearly an ex cop jobs worth who said he'd have DVLA with mobile dyno in the carpark so I st myself, took me 3 times to pass MOD 2 with the same guy and I think he took pity in the end and passed me.
If I were to do it again I think I'd just pay an instructor, as you should buy test insurance.
anonymous said:
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Keeping in mind that he passed his A licence before January 2013 when a 17/18 year old would only have to pass there test once to get a A full licence (2 year 33hp restriction). Unlike today were there is all this A1,A2 and full licence testsHe used his 125 for both mod 1 & mod 2. He was insured with MCE, and still is today. His first big bike bought a week after his test was a 750cc bike restricted to 33hp. This restriction was in place for 2 years then would automatically come of after the 2 years. The restriction came of when he was 19.
The thing about MCEs insurance was that once the restriction was of the bike he had 2 years ncb and his insurance covered him to ride any other bike 3rd party. Shocking I know, but true. At 19-20 he would also ride my bikes legally on the road. Were as he could have never done that with a car until he was 24.
Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 21:59
FezSpider said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Keeping in mind that he passed his A licence before January 2013 when a 17/18 year old would only have to pass there test once to get a A full licence (2 year 33hp restriction). Unlike today were there is all this A1,A2 and full licence testsHe used his 125 for both mod 1 & mod 2. He was insured with MCE, and still is today. His first big bike bought a week after his test was a 750cc bike restricted to 33hp. This restriction was in place for 2 years then would automatically come of after the 2 years. The restriction came of when he was 19.
The thing about MCEs insurance was that once the restriction was of the bike he had 2 years ncb and his insurance covered him to ride any other bike 3rd party. Shocking I know, but true. At 19-20 he would also ride my bikes legally on the road. Were as he could have never done that with a car until he was 24.
Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 18th January 21:59
Edited by KingNothing on Sunday 19th January 08:03
KingNothing said:
If he used a 125 there's nothing comparable to the situation the OP is in. The OP has got a larger bike he legally wants to use on the test instead of his current A2 bike (which wouldn't make any sense anyway) or a loan (A) bike from a riding school, you've always been able to use your own 125cc bike on a test to get an A1 license, as you can ride it unsupervised after a CBT.
Yea I know , I was only answering the question Edited by KingNothing on Sunday 19th January 08:03
"
Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?"
Then as the thread went along I realized he was on a bigger bike.
Its no biggie, just ignore. It was simpler times 8 years ago
09dudharb said:
Hi all,
Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?
I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.
I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.
Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
If I were you I'd have a lesson with an instructor beforehand too. It's not so much a test of can you ride a bike, but can you remember all the things you need to do to pass the test. Without an instructors help I think it's highly unlikely you would. When I was learning we had a guy in a similar situation to you, he ended up being by far the worst of the class as he thought he knew how to ride but had picked up all sorts of bad habits that meant he wouldn't have a hope of passing. Does anyone know of a way to do your unrestricted bike test on your own bike without an instructor?
I've been riding daily for years on an A2 and have completed an advanced riders course so feel confident I won't have any issues.
I've been quoted around 400£ for the bike hire and a lesson on the way to the test center but seems a little excessive as I have already bought a bike fitting the criteria for the test.
Obviously would need insurance but would it need to be a special type? I'm right in assuming I'd need a van to drop it at the test center?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Bikesalot said:
I rode my A2 restricted bike to the test centre. Un restricted it in the car park. Done my test, then rode home on my un restricted bike.
Take some of the above with a pinch of salt.
And your insurance company was fine with you riding a bike you weren't legally yet qualified to ride?Take some of the above with a pinch of salt.
Just don't do it, they've seen this plenty of times before. When I instructed there was a Polish guy who kept coming to Mitcham on a CB1000R. He was quite blatant about it - putting the L plates on in the test centre car park. They called the cops on him in the end. Your insurance almost certainly won't be valid if you go wrong either.
Reading this thread makes me so glad to be an older fart, when I was 17 I borrowed a mate's S1B Kawasaki 250 triple (I'd bought myself a 380 Suzuki but obviously couldn't ride it legally until I passed my test) to take my test, which consisted of riding around the block a few times, demonstrating hand signals, a bit of observation & an emergency stop. No lessons, no restricted power, it's amazing how much has changed with the bike test, yet the car test remains much the same, probably slightly easier if anything. Go figure!
FezSpider said:
7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
I remember those 33bhp restrictor kits being very badly made, well, they did seem to fall off a lot...crofty1984 said:
FezSpider said:
7/8 years ago in 2012 I taught my 17 year old son to ride and never used an instructor. We did this before the various test modules were introduced on January the 20th 2013 iirc. This was for the full motorcycle licence before the big 2013 changes. (33 hp for 2 years then after that full power is...was automatically allowed)
I remember those 33bhp restrictor kits being very badly made, well, they did seem to fall off a lot...FYI in my sons case, the new Kawasaki he bought had the option of a 33hp restricted ECU fitted at the dealer. Again FYI, the ecu did not "fall of" until we took it out and replaced with the full power unit.
TheInternet said:
Bikesure will insure you giving 60 days to pass the tests.
You'll need to get the bike to the test centre, either van, mate dropping it off, or instructor accompanying you.
Do I have to tell them I’m going for my test mate as I got my mod 1 Wednesday and struggling to find temporary cover You'll need to get the bike to the test centre, either van, mate dropping it off, or instructor accompanying you.
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