Dainese Smart Jacket / Vest ..... Anyone got one ?
Discussion
Hi
Thinking of one of these to replace my back and chest protector for trackdays, anyone got one / tried one ?
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
Thinking of one of these to replace my back and chest protector for trackdays, anyone got one / tried one ?
https://www.dainese.com/gb/en/smart-jacket.html
I'm sure Dainese must have covered this, but my immediate thought was, if you are placing that underneath your existing motorcycle clothing and you have, say, a well-fitting, well-made thick leather jacket, how will the airbag be able to inflate sufficiently if it can't bust out the seams? Seems like the air pressure has to go somewhere and that is either out of your jacket or into your torso?
Like I say, I'm sure there is an answer to this but I'm curious as to what?
Like I say, I'm sure there is an answer to this but I'm curious as to what?
CAPP0 said:
I'm sure Dainese must have covered this, but my immediate thought was, if you are placing that underneath your existing motorcycle clothing and you have, say, a well-fitting, well-made thick leather jacket, how will the airbag be able to inflate sufficiently if it can't bust out the seams? Seems like the air pressure has to go somewhere and that is either out of your jacket or into your torso?
Like I say, I'm sure there is an answer to this but I'm curious as to what?
Fair point, for me personally there is enough room in my suit for both my Knox back and chest protectors, so should have ample inflation space as the chest protector is quite thick .... They can also be worn externally from what I have read.Like I say, I'm sure there is an answer to this but I'm curious as to what?
This piqued my interest and: Just had a look at the manual and I'm not sure this is the right solution for your intended purpose... doesn't specifically say NOT for track use but it's damn close. Also (cynical Sherlock Holmes bunnet goes on) none of the promotional images seem to illustrate anyone wearing it in any kind of full one or two piece track leathers..
Page 12: The system is sensitive to sudden body movements and to
shocks, therefore wearers must never perform manoeuvres
not associated with normal riding (wheelies, side skidding, etc)
Page 16: ATTENZIONE
Never use the D-AIR STREET SMART JKT for other purposes
than those for which it was designed.
Do not use the D-AIR STREET SMART JKT for motocross,
super-motard, trial, off-road or other sports
Page 12: The system is sensitive to sudden body movements and to
shocks, therefore wearers must never perform manoeuvres
not associated with normal riding (wheelies, side skidding, etc)
Page 16: ATTENZIONE
Never use the D-AIR STREET SMART JKT for other purposes
than those for which it was designed.
Do not use the D-AIR STREET SMART JKT for motocross,
super-motard, trial, off-road or other sports
Edited by naetype on Monday 23 December 10:54
naetype said:
Page 12: The system is sensitive to sudden body movements and to
shocks, therefore wearers must never perform manoeuvres
not associated with normal riding (wheelies, side skidding, etc)
Ah, that’s a shame. I was quite keen on this for the road, but the fear a badly executed wheelie landing (most of mine) might set it off and then actually cause loss of control is a bit of a worry shocks, therefore wearers must never perform manoeuvres
not associated with normal riding (wheelies, side skidding, etc)
spareparts said:
Biggest issue is that it is too thick and bulky to go under your current suit if your suit is fitted correctly. And then the fabric materials are quite delicate if fitted to the outside of the suit. It is prob the nicest independent airbag of its type tho.
Its no bigger or bulkier than my Knox back protector and chest protector, in fact a lot less bulky pre-inflation ...I have a Helite Turtle air vest which I’ve worn for the past 5yrs. They are activated by a lanyard which I’ve attached to the rear tank bolt. It has a replaceable gas canister, which takes less than a minute to replace.
I highly recommend them, as I’ve come off at over 80mph (racing) and was uninjured. Having checked it over, it’s scuffed in places but still in working order.
I highly recommend them, as I’ve come off at over 80mph (racing) and was uninjured. Having checked it over, it’s scuffed in places but still in working order.
Thanks for the replies gents, looks like its not feasible for track work, there seem to be a couple of track option, the Ixon for example but they also require a secondary subscription / purchase for the brain that runs them from In&Motion which ramps the cost, I don't want an external one like the Helite so will hold off for a while .... may look at a new suit !!!!
Hi Dibs! When I was working for BMW I sold quite a few of the BMW airbag suits which were actually made by Dainese. One of my clients had a good old high side on track and was very impressed with both the activation and protection from the suit, as well as the repair and rebuild of it afterwards which wasn't too expensive either. Obviously this was 4-odd years ago before I moved to France but they may be worth looking at....RJ
Rushjob said:
Hi Dibs! When I was working for BMW I sold quite a few of the BMW airbag suits which were actually made by Dainese. One of my clients had a good old high side on track and was very impressed with both the activation and protection from the suit, as well as the repair and rebuild of it afterwards which wasn't too expensive either. Obviously this was 4-odd years ago before I moved to France but they may be worth looking at....RJ
Hi, thats potentially my next move but would be begrudgingly as I have a mint 1 piece Dainese suit and loathe to just ditch it, hence looking at the vest options first ....Rushjob said:
dibblecorse said:
Hi, thats potentially my next move but would be begrudgingly as I have a mint 1 piece Dainese suit and loathe to just ditch it, hence looking at the vest options first ....
Plus another herd of cows has to die too 
The voices made me say that........
And more than one herd at risk !!!!
Thought very seriously about the Dainese Smart Vest - I think it's the best vest offering yet with the flexibility to wear over or under a variety of clothing.
The only thing that really put me off was that I didn't think the sizing would be sufficiently flexible to accommodate fitting over both my snug leather suit, more baggy leather jacket or blimp like winter textile jacket - and I'm 80% through losing a bit of excess weight. I bought the Bering C Protect Vest which is an elasticated one size (actually one of 2 sizes) product which fits comfortably with all the above - it's a tether system though and I would prefer the accelerometer based option and it has a soft shell outer which I think would wear through and burst the airbag in a high speed slide - I wouldn't consider it for track use.
I still have a few lbs to lose and may well get the Dainese vest when I'm back to my target weight in a couple of months.
I wouldn't wear any airbag vest under snug fitting leathers unless it was a suit designed for it for the reasons others have stated.
The only thing that really put me off was that I didn't think the sizing would be sufficiently flexible to accommodate fitting over both my snug leather suit, more baggy leather jacket or blimp like winter textile jacket - and I'm 80% through losing a bit of excess weight. I bought the Bering C Protect Vest which is an elasticated one size (actually one of 2 sizes) product which fits comfortably with all the above - it's a tether system though and I would prefer the accelerometer based option and it has a soft shell outer which I think would wear through and burst the airbag in a high speed slide - I wouldn't consider it for track use.
I still have a few lbs to lose and may well get the Dainese vest when I'm back to my target weight in a couple of months.
I wouldn't wear any airbag vest under snug fitting leathers unless it was a suit designed for it for the reasons others have stated.
I think the advantage of both the Tech-Air and In&Motion systems is that you can swap them between compatible jackets.
Loads of Alpinestars are now Tech-Air compatible too. Although there's two versions (Race and Street) each with a different fit. If I ever win the lottery, I saw that BKS offers made-to-measure suits and jackets with Tech-Air.
In&Motion looks like it can be swapped easily between compatible garments. Also, Hideout will do made-to-measure jackets and suits with the In&Motion airbag: not cheap, but only a small bank heist would cover the cost. Unfortunately, I haven't done much bank robbery.
I wonder how the protection compares between them. The latest Dainese airbags seem to be lighter but with less coverage than the previous D-Air. The Tech-Air's coverage looks significantly more comprehensive except for the neck. I don't think In&Motion has the same race experience yet, but should be in suits at this year's TT. I imagine data from crashes in road racing will be more relevant to many of us than data from MotoGP.
Loads of Alpinestars are now Tech-Air compatible too. Although there's two versions (Race and Street) each with a different fit. If I ever win the lottery, I saw that BKS offers made-to-measure suits and jackets with Tech-Air.
In&Motion looks like it can be swapped easily between compatible garments. Also, Hideout will do made-to-measure jackets and suits with the In&Motion airbag: not cheap, but only a small bank heist would cover the cost. Unfortunately, I haven't done much bank robbery.
I wonder how the protection compares between them. The latest Dainese airbags seem to be lighter but with less coverage than the previous D-Air. The Tech-Air's coverage looks significantly more comprehensive except for the neck. I don't think In&Motion has the same race experience yet, but should be in suits at this year's TT. I imagine data from crashes in road racing will be more relevant to many of us than data from MotoGP.
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