2022 speed limiters.... how will it work for bikes?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
Its says "all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022". Its says they can be switched off, but we all know its just paving the way to permanent enforcement and thats going to suck big time.
Its says "all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022". Its says they can be switched off, but we all know its just paving the way to permanent enforcement and thats going to suck big time.
Zarco said:
Dakkon said:
What confuses me, is that the government rakes in vast amount of money with speeding fines, with this new enforcement that stops?
Yeah, why don't they actively encourage speeding? 
black-k1 said:
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where it was switched off!! 
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where the inability to crack on for a moment to escape a dangerous situation causes a crash.http://www.fema-online.eu/website/index.php/2019/0...
"I was told that Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) for cars was on its way and ISA for motorcycles could be expected sooner or later, but that I had the assurance of both the European Commission and of ETSC that there are no plans for ISA for motorcycles yet. If/when there is an ISA for motorcycles, this will not interfere with speed, because they all realise – and expressed to me – that this is too dangerous".
"I was told that Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) for cars was on its way and ISA for motorcycles could be expected sooner or later, but that I had the assurance of both the European Commission and of ETSC that there are no plans for ISA for motorcycles yet. If/when there is an ISA for motorcycles, this will not interfere with speed, because they all realise – and expressed to me – that this is too dangerous".
CAPP0 said:
black-k1 said:
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where it was switched off!!
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where the inability to crack on for a moment to escape a dangerous situation causes a crash.
Tiggsy said:
CAPP0 said:
black-k1 said:
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where it was switched off!!
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where the inability to crack on for a moment to escape a dangerous situation causes a crash.
Tiggsy said:
CAPP0 said:
black-k1 said:
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where it was switched off!!
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where the inability to crack on for a moment to escape a dangerous situation causes a crash.
Have a fair amount of experience using speed restricted vehicles (bikes, trucks 2CV’s etc possibly unlike a fair amount of the snowflake / mumsnet / earth mother lot that campaign for their implementation) and it does restrict your ability to move in one direction (relative to other traffic) which is awkward when you’re a vulnerable road user such a PTW.
Little squirt maybe to get in someone’s eyeline alongside you while a car sits 6 inches off your tail-light - computer says no.
black-k1 said:
Tiggsy said:
CAPP0 said:
black-k1 said:
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where it was switched off!!
Not sure how it'll work for bikes but let's see what happens with the first claim on insurance where the inability to crack on for a moment to escape a dangerous situation causes a crash.Rick1.8t said:
Bikes are apparently excluded as they stated it would be too dangerous.
Going to be some pretty annoyed car drivers when bikes continue to float on past as their car beeps like hell at them / potentially locks them to a given speed.
Awesome! At least one thing is safe (for now)Going to be some pretty annoyed car drivers when bikes continue to float on past as their car beeps like hell at them / potentially locks them to a given speed.
Surely a way around the "dangerous situation" argument would be to allow x amount of seconds of further acceleration once you hit the speed limit.
I think we have to admit the days of being able to enjoy the roads are numbered, the roads will be a means to get from one place to another, I'm quite surprised insurance companies aren't pushing telematics/dash cams more already if i'm honest.
Dash cams are already ruining it a bit for me, i'm not saying i want to ride like a knob everywhere, but it's always in the back of my mind that if I overtake a bit quick in a short space making a bit of noise am i going to cause such offence to the driver that they'll be sending the footage to the police??
My question is more about what it's going to do to the value of anything remotely performance related.
I think we have to admit the days of being able to enjoy the roads are numbered, the roads will be a means to get from one place to another, I'm quite surprised insurance companies aren't pushing telematics/dash cams more already if i'm honest.
Dash cams are already ruining it a bit for me, i'm not saying i want to ride like a knob everywhere, but it's always in the back of my mind that if I overtake a bit quick in a short space making a bit of noise am i going to cause such offence to the driver that they'll be sending the footage to the police??
My question is more about what it's going to do to the value of anything remotely performance related.
BuzzBravado said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415
Its says "all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022". Its says they can be switched off, but we all know its just paving the way to permanent enforcement and thats going to suck big time.
Easy. Your bike will carry a transmitter, that you will not be allowed to tamper with. Along the roads there will be sensors. Everything will be recorded automatically and bills will drop into your mailbox on a regular basis. Simples.Its says "all vehicles sold in Europe from 2022". Its says they can be switched off, but we all know its just paving the way to permanent enforcement and thats going to suck big time.
BuzzBravado said:
All my adult life cars and bikes have been at the forefront of what i enjoy in life. This is a small part of a relentless push to make driving/riding a thing of the past and i feel like a tiny minority that is not ok with that. Others around me don't see a problem with any of this.
You gotta step with the times, mate, full control over each and everyone in every aspect.Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff