Textile vs leather jackets
Textile vs leather jackets
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MOBB

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4,587 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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After losing a fair bit of weight, my old Dainese leather jacket is far too loose now and I need a new one.

Tried on various leather Dainese jackets and wasn't really happy with how any of them felt. Tried some Alpinestars ones too and for some reason they just don't seem to fit me nicely.

I tried on one of these as well - https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/... - and it felt great.

I'm a fair weather biker, don't ride in rain or winter, is this sufficient for just road riding March-October? I ride a Panigale 959, road only, fairly fast at times but generally short hoons.

What do you reckon? Happy to try other brands too.


black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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There are three main reasons for buying a jacket (or any other piece of motorcycle clothing):

1. Accident protection;
2. Weather protection;
3. Style;

If the jacket (and not just the armour) is not CE approved then you have no way of judging it's ability to protect you in an accident other than a combination of blind faith and gut feel. That said, leather is nearly always better than textiles with regards to providing crash protection.

If rain protection is not high on your priority list then as a "general purpose" jacket (not designed specifically for very hot or very cold conditions) then it should do fine.

The style is something only you can comment on (although it looks pretty smart to me!).

If all of those parameters are met for you by this jacket, and you're happy with the price then ... why not?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Only thing I found with textiles is they don't always have the rigidity of leather (part of the appeal is light weight) so far more likely to ride up in an off - so essential they are zipped to your trousers (personally I never ride without my top and bottom half attached anyway)

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

282 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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black-k1 said:
That said, leather is nearly always better than textiles with regards to providing crash protection.
Better in a slide (although top end textiles are good) but crash (as in impact) is down to the armour, not the material holding it next to you)

MOBB

Original Poster:

4,587 posts

157 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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anonymous said:
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Cheers, I'll look into that :-)

Found the Dainese Mig range which is textile and leather, looks an interesting alternative

bogie

17,096 posts

302 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Personally, every time ive tried textile stuff, I end up with it burnt on the exhaust or engine parts of the bike somewhere. Maybe im just so used to leather/denim .....

...get off bike throw jacket over it, come back and the sleeve is burnt on the exhaust
try textile trousers, smell burning at traffic lights, get home and half the bottom leg inside is left on the exhaust etc

So im still a leather jacket and kevlar jeans kind of guy ....

You can get leather jackets with waterproof liners in these days. I wouldnt go all day in the rain with one, but for the odd period of rain when you get caught out they are fine.

Depending on what style you prefer, take a look at Helstons (french brand) most of their jackets have a waterproof liner, kevlar, CE armour etc. I have had one for a few years and use it all year except when its warm i.e. most of the time in the UK wink

motolegends or sportsbikeshop have a huge range to choose from

RizzoTheRat

29,022 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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Tiggsy said:
black-k1 said:
That said, leather is nearly always better than textiles with regards to providing crash protection.
Better in a slide (although top end textiles are good) but crash (as in impact) is down to the armour, not the material holding it next to you)
But leathers do tend to be tighter fitting than textiles so hold the armour in place better. I wear my textiles over the top of trousers/jumper so they have to have a reasonable amount of space in them, which means more space for the armour to move around.

graham22

3,326 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th November 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
But leathers do tend to be tighter fitting than textiles so hold the armour in place better. I wear my textiles over the top of trousers/jumper so they have to have a reasonable amount of space in them, which means more space for the armour to move around.
That's always my concern, textiles having room for extra layers.

Personally, I stick to leathers, base layers under as it gets cold but either wear a textile jacket over - with no liner or body armour. Have taken to wearing a motocross waterproof jacket over leathers as a good compromise.

Again, unlined waterproofs over leather jeans.

off_again

13,917 posts

264 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Worst "look at me, I lost some weight" thread ever.....

hehe

RizzoTheRat

29,022 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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The reason I wear textiles is because my leathers shrank one winter whistle

MOBB

Original Poster:

4,587 posts

157 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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off_again said:
Worst "look at me, I lost some weight" thread ever.....

hehe
biggrin

matthias73

2,901 posts

180 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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Today I wore:

Thermal base layer
Down jacket
Leather bike jacket
And over the top I had a north face expedition parka designed for artic weather.


And I was still freezing.

It's so cold up north I've taken drastic steps and brought the bike inside! That's right, into the actual house.

graham22

3,326 posts

235 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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anonymous said:
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Yes - both unlined, not much of a faff but nice & cosy without being flappy in the wind.

TBH, it's usually for going somewhere like the TT, 400 miles each way all winds & weather, option for just leathers once in the island.

gland

114 posts

110 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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matthias73 said:
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Down jacket
Leather bike jacket
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Try the down jacket outside the leathers. They don't perform well compressed. Then the wind/water protection on the outside so you don't turn into a blimp.

RizzoTheRat

29,022 posts

222 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Electric heated waistcoats really are the way forward in cold weather.

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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matthias73 said:
Today I wore:

Thermal base layer
Down jacket
Leather bike jacket
And over the top I had a north face expedition parka designed for artic weather.


And I was still freezing.

It's so cold up north I've taken drastic steps and brought the bike inside! That's right, into the actual house.
The most important thing for keeping warm on a bike is not the number of layers but the removal of drafts. Having a 1 piece or a an all around zip together suit will make a bigger difference than just adding more layers.

Also worth ensuring neck, wrist and ankle areas are draft free.

MrGman

1,667 posts

236 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I recently bought a textile jacket and trouser combo and they are so much warmer than my leather stuff.

I got the RST paragon v stuff so nothing too fancy, i've worn it down to 0 degrees so far and just had a t-shirt on underneath and turned up at work absolutely fine, not even a slight chill. As has been said i think it's all about keeping the draft out which the paragon stuff seems to do well.

Being a fair weather rider though i'd go with leather all day long, much more comfy and better in the event of a slide. And not to mention how you'd look on a panigale in textiles!


Edited by MrGman on Monday 20th November 17:32

matthias73

2,901 posts

180 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I won't be needing to do that trip again for a while, I just rode the old girl up the length of the country to get her parked up at my new place.

Will be used on the occasional sunny Sunday but that's rare in Yorkshire..

Harris15

7 posts

79 months

Monday 17th May 2021
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I also have an old leather jacket and was thinking to throw it already, but maybe there is a way to save it somehow? It would be much easier if it were of textile, but with leather I have no ideas what could I do. With a textile jacket, there are many different way how can restore it, especially if you have a textile finishing machinery, you can easily replace some parts of it and make it look nice and esthetic. I already did something similar with a T-shirt, so I already have some experience restoring old textile clothes.

Edited by Harris15 on Tuesday 18th May 13:37