A picture a day... biker banter (Vol 6)
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Caddyshack said:
I would have thought the carbs should be setup largely the same for Road and track wouldnt they? Obviously track you only focus on wide open throttle but I would have thought a good rolling road would get it all about right?
Lovely looking bike
Ideally yes! There is a flat spot in the fuelling that nobody seems to be able to iron out, we can just move it up or down the rev range so i had it at the bottom for the trackday which doesn't make it at all rideable on the road. Lovely looking bike
I'm no whizz with carbs other than general cleaning, needle setting and balancing but I've had a couple of people look at it and nobody can come to any conclusions although I haven't had it on a dyno!
The bike has a Dyna 2000 ignition with zx6r stick coils, keihin flat slide carbs, kleen air mod, kit open airbox, open carbon intakes, velocity stacks, dynojet kit, coolant feed to carbs removed etc as well as a full akrapovic system so it's far from stock and therefore quite tricky to set up! It's fast for a zx7r though when it gets up the revs!
patchb said:
Ideally yes! There is a flat spot in the fuelling that nobody seems to be able to iron out, we can just move it up or down the rev range so i had it at the bottom for the trackday which doesn't make it at all rideable on the road.
I'm no whizz with carbs other than general cleaning, needle setting and balancing but I've had a couple of people look at it and nobody can come to any conclusions although I haven't had it on a dyno!
The bike has a Dyna 2000 ignition with zx6r stick coils, keihin flat slide carbs, kleen air mod, kit open airbox, open carbon intakes, velocity stacks, dynojet kit, coolant feed to carbs removed etc as well as a full akrapovic system so it's far from stock and therefore quite tricky to set up! It's fast for a zx7r though when it gets up the revs!
I'm not saying this is the same for you as it was for me back in 1993. Back then I was running a ex Dave Leach Isle Of Man TT race bike on the road, it had Carrillo rods, Wiseco Big bore pistons, flowed head and a full race Cobra exhaust, Dyno Jet Kit. I'm no whizz with carbs other than general cleaning, needle setting and balancing but I've had a couple of people look at it and nobody can come to any conclusions although I haven't had it on a dyno!
The bike has a Dyna 2000 ignition with zx6r stick coils, keihin flat slide carbs, kleen air mod, kit open airbox, open carbon intakes, velocity stacks, dynojet kit, coolant feed to carbs removed etc as well as a full akrapovic system so it's far from stock and therefore quite tricky to set up! It's fast for a zx7r though when it gets up the revs!
It was supposed to be rebuilt at x amount of hours or miles but me being young, stupid/thick, mortgage/kids etc I thought I could squeeze a full years road riding out of it. It eventually dropped a valve (I have a photo of it somewhere. Anyway I drove to wales to meet someone who was selling a head/barrels/pistons for a FZR 600.
I got that sorted and the bike running but I could not get it running right, I tried all sorts of things over a couple of weeks with the carbs until on evening with the tops off the carbs I pushed on the tops of the needles and 2 of them dropped down ever so slightly, I took it out and it ran perfectly. I took them apart again and noticed there was a tiny wear marks on the needles just around the area they would hit fully home.
I never did change them, I just made sure they were fully home before re-fitting (not installing) the springs, diaphragm and carb top.
Krikkit said:
Not a great example of reliability then, FFS.
Did you tweak the baffle btw?
I didn't, and i'm reluctant to because when I've replaced the standard can with that arrow it seems to have cured the jerky throttle at town speeds, and that's without a map for it. It's actually ridable in sport mode now going to the shops. Did you tweak the baffle btw?
moanthebairns said:
Nice scenery. I think they're great looking bikes. I even like the looks with the standard exhaust. Sorry to learn you're having problems. I've ridden three or four of them and like them lots but I have even less time than I may have had before for issues that necessitate return trips to the dealer and then them having to discuss and agree warranty work with KTM and waiting for parts. It takes the shine off of buying new.
daqinggregg said:
Caruso said:
Notes Founding member of the "Cheap to Buy, Expensive to Run and Difficult to Sell On" Owners Club.
Needs a change
Member of the "Expensive to Buy, cheap to Run and Impossible to Sell On" Owners Club.
Only a few years ago HD launched the Livewire as the “future of motorcycling” emblazoned across their website landing page. Now it’s hidden in a sub tab. Ewan & Charley got £££’s from Apple to trip circuit breakers from Chile to LA, didn’t really seem to convince many people that here was a product that you would actually want to buy. Given a choice what do we prefer? The sound of a Bonneville thumping past or an EV with its muted jet sound?
Essarell said:
daqinggregg said:
Caruso said:
Notes Founding member of the "Cheap to Buy, Expensive to Run and Difficult to Sell On" Owners Club.
Needs a change
Member of the "Expensive to Buy, cheap to Run and Impossible to Sell On" Owners Club.
Only a few years ago HD launched the Livewire as the “future of motorcycling” emblazoned across their website landing page. Now it’s hidden in a sub tab. Ewan & Charley got £££’s from Apple to trip circuit breakers from Chile to LA, didn’t really seem to convince many people that here was a product that you would actually want to buy. Given a choice what do we prefer? The sound of a Bonneville thumping past or an EV with its muted jet sound?
Interesting purchase, enjoy
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Essarell said:
daqinggregg said:
Caruso said:
Notes Founding member of the "Cheap to Buy, Expensive to Run and Difficult to Sell On" Owners Club.
Needs a change
Member of the "Expensive to Buy, cheap to Run and Impossible to Sell On" Owners Club.
Only a few years ago HD launched the Livewire as the “future of motorcycling” emblazoned across their website landing page. Now it’s hidden in a sub tab. Ewan & Charley got £££’s from Apple to trip circuit breakers from Chile to LA, didn’t really seem to convince many people that here was a product that you would actually want to buy. Given a choice what do we prefer? The sound of a Bonneville thumping past or an EV with its muted jet sound?
Back to the bike. I do hope Caruso is happy with it and it does everything he bought it for but the only use I could see for me personally would be for going to the shops to get my tomatoes and bananas once or twice a week. I can't help thinking it should have a basket somewhere, or maybe even two.
Essarell said:
daqinggregg said:
Caruso said:
Notes Founding member of the "Cheap to Buy, Expensive to Run and Difficult to Sell On" Owners Club.
Needs a change
Member of the "Expensive to Buy, cheap to Run and Impossible to Sell On" Owners Club.
Only a few years ago HD launched the Livewire as the “future of motorcycling” emblazoned across their website landing page. Now it’s hidden in a sub tab. Ewan & Charley got £££’s from Apple to trip circuit breakers from Chile to LA, didn’t really seem to convince many people that here was a product that you would actually want to buy. Given a choice what do we prefer? The sound of a Bonneville thumping past or an EV with its muted jet sound?
They won't replace petrol bikes soon, but I recommend a test drive if you get the opportunity.
moanthebairns said:
I really want to like this bike, I've got it looking alright I think with some tasteful, subtle, simple mods.
But it's hard to trust it when your boot ends up more oily than the chippy pizza you've had.
Still, sorry to see you're having issues with it. in 2024 this really shouldn't be happening.
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