Moto GP 2024

[Se7enheaven]

Turn7 said:

Se7enheaven said:

KTM are rapidly falling behind. Even the flair of Acosta has been dampened down over last 2 meetings which is a shame as he’s so exciting to watch. Binder is also struggling ,with Miller not even showing the odd flash of competitive speed. All pointing towards the new Michelin tyre incompatibility for the bike this year seems to be possible reason ?

Their senior technical guy has not had his contract renewed…. Predict open wallets being offered to Ducati ataff

Wasn’t aware of that. Yep they need to get something sorted quickly, and get back on track. Going to cost them.

[John D.]

FourWheelDrift said:

See how fast Bastianini and Vinales jumped to KTM, did they see Acosta and think they can do the same, did they not perhaps look at Moto2 Champ Fernandez or Miller and see the continued struggle. Do they think they are are as good as the new alien or just normal. I don't think it will turn out as expected for them.

I think Bastianini saw a factory ride. Perhaps Aprilia would have been a better option (perhaps it wasn't offered).

God knows what Vinales thinks

You never know, they might both gel with the bike.

[LF5335]

FourWheelDrift said:

See how fast Bastianini and Vinales jumped to KTM, did they see Acosta and think they can do the same, did they not perhaps look at Moto2 Champ Fernandez or Miller and see the continued struggle. Do they think they are are as good as the new alien or just normal. I don't think it will turn out as expected for them.

How is Acosta the new alien? He hasn’t won a race yet, he isn’t fighting at the sharp end currently. He may well turn out to be a new alien, but he’s currently not the new Messiah, just a very naughty boy.

[hiccy18]

John D. said:

FourWheelDrift said:

See how fast Bastianini and Vinales jumped to KTM, did they see Acosta and think they can do the same, did they not perhaps look at Moto2 Champ Fernandez or Miller and see the continued struggle. Do they think they are are as good as the new alien or just normal. I don't think it will turn out as expected for them.

I think Bastianini saw a factory ride. Perhaps Aprilia would have been a better option (perhaps it wasn't offered).

God knows what Vinales thinks

You never know, they might both gel with the bike.

This years performance isn't irrelevant, but it's how it performs over the next two seasons that the riders are interested in. Both have looked at the project and decided it's the best place for them compared to the options available. From what Rivola has said, Bestia was extremely interesting to them, so that suggests both riders looked at each project and picked KTM. Rivola is doing a great job, KTM have a great budget, but both have slipped back from Ducati a little this season.

[rodericb]

LF5335 said:

How is Acosta the new alien? He hasn’t won a race yet, he isn’t fighting at the sharp end currently. He may well turn out to be a new alien, but he’s currently not the new Messiah, just a very naughty boy.

If Acosta was on a Ducati he might be doing a bit better. He has often been the best performing KTM.

[rodericb]

FourWheelDrift said:

Sounds like Digi is staying at VR46 for next year.

Yes and getting a GP25 next year I think.

[rodericb]

FourWheelDrift said:

See how fast Bastianini and Vinales jumped to KTM, did they see Acosta and think they can do the same, did they not perhaps look at Moto2 Champ Fernandez or Miller and see the continued struggle. Do they think they are are as good as the new alien or just normal. I don't think it will turn out as expected for them.

Or did Bastianni see Ducati and the series organisers getting a boner over Marquez and jump rather than be pushed?

[Marquezs Stabilisers]

rodericb said:

If Acosta was on a Ducati he might be doing a bit better. He has often been the best performing KTM.

Top KTM in the championship

[Freakuk]

FourWheelDrift said:

See how fast Bastianini and Vinales jumped to KTM, did they see Acosta and think they can do the same, did they not perhaps look at Moto2 Champ Fernandez or Miller and see the continued struggle. Do they think they are are as good as the new alien or just normal. I don't think it will turn out as expected for them.

Aprilia had to pay the money for Jorge, I'd imagine when it came to Vinales their offer wasn't quite as good as he was hoping since he had now won for them. If we assume that Jorge jumps on the Aprilia and out performs Vinales then his stock goes down. He's got some race wins and that commands a beter paycheck, so I assume KTM offered more and that was that.

As for Enea, I will take a stab at he has seen a few Ducati guys move over and that was an easy decision at the time, faces he knows and he's probably had conversations with them to understand the pros/cons outside of any contractual/official conversations.

[LF5335]

rodericb said:

If Acosta was on a Ducati he might be doing a bit better. He has often been the best performing KTM.

But he’s not. Seems a bit strange to say if he was on the best bike then he’d be an alien, because he might win on it. When he’s won races and the title then he’s got a case but Mir has won races and a title too and nobody is calling him an alien.

[Yazza54]

LF5335 said:

rodericb said:

If Acosta was on a Ducati he might be doing a bit better. He has often been the best performing KTM.

But he’s not. Seems a bit strange to say if he was on the best bike then he’d be an alien, because he might win on it. When he’s won races and the title then he’s got a case but Mir has won races and a title too and nobody is calling him an alien.

Pedro is obviously an exception talent, but yeah, I think it's still a bit too early to be proclaiming him as the next GOAT.

[FourWheelDrift]

Crutchlow out of his Silverstone wild card, Remy Gardner back - https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1052242/1/cal-cr...

[Freakuk]

FourWheelDrift said:

Crutchlow out of his Silverstone wild card, Remy Gardner back - https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1052242/1/cal-cr...

Pity, he's had the injury for a few months.

I doubt it would have filled the grandstands TBH.

I'm interested to see how many people attend over a weekend compared to other circuits, I doubt Silverstone will get 100K people, LeMans was just under 300K over the 3 days which was incredible.

2 rounds at Misano now, back to back.

[SteRB5138]

Freakuk said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Crutchlow out of his Silverstone wild card, Remy Gardner back - https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1052242/1/cal-cr...

Pity, he's had the injury for a few months.

I doubt it would have filled the grandstands TBH.

I'm interested to see how many people attend over a weekend compared to other circuits, I doubt Silverstone will get 100K people, LeMans was just under 300K over the 3 days which was incredible.

2 rounds at Misano now, back to back.

When I went for the weekend in 2022, there was only 40k on the Sunday, most grandstands were half empty, the weather was scorchio as well

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1009857/1/keith-...


Hopefully there will be more this year

[hiccy18]

I was kinda hoping the missus might buy me a ticket for my birthday but she's talking about a new chair for my desk instead. Perhaps it's a bluff....

[Marquezs Stabilisers]

Freakuk said:

Pity, he's had the injury for a few months.

I doubt it would have filled the grandstands TBH.

I'm interested to see how many people attend over a weekend compared to other circuits, I doubt Silverstone will get 100K people, LeMans was just under 300K over the 3 days which was incredible.

2 rounds at Misano now, back to back.

Suspect the riders and teams would rather have had the weekend off.

[HybridTheory]

I went last year and wouldn't bother again as it was freezing cold and no large screen to see who even won... rubbish

[Turn7]

HybridTheory said:

I went last year and wouldn't bother again as it was freezing cold and no large screen to see who even won... rubbish

Agreed , no screen at the complex was just rude I felt….

As much as I want to go and watch, the place is so bloody soulless I can’t be arsed.

[egor110]

I wonder what the cut off spectator number wise is before silverstone decide it's not worth hosting?

[stevemcs]

I thought last year it was 63k for the race .. or might have been weekend. Yes it chucked it down and we managed to get soaked in a covered stand.

We are going again this year opting for a roving grandstand ticket. We go Thursday, home on monday. The racing is good, why so many people go to see F1 when its poor both in terms of value for money and the racing