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John D. said:
Yazza54 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Praise the Lord for Cal Crutchlow, our last Moto GP winner, if we're talking about awkward, cringe inducing racers talking in Interviews, look no further than Jake Dixon. I can't stand the sound of his voice. When he starts talking about mental health and all that tiresome stuff, he reminds me of a drunk teenage girl.
Agree, he wants all the praise before he achieves anything too. It's important to be confident but I feel he has too high and opinion of himself I'm not knocking him as a rider though. He's done well.
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
So here's where we are now:
Factory Ducati: Pecco Bagnaia, Marc Marquez
Factory Aprilia: Jorge Martin
Factory Yamaha: Fabio Quatararo
Factory KTM: Brad Binder, Pedro Acosta
Tech3 KTM: Maverick Vinales, Ennea Bastianini
Factory Honda: Luca Marini, Joan Mir
LCR Honda: Johann Zarco, Taka Nakagami or A.N. Other Asian rider
Pramac Ducati:
VR46 Ducati:
Gresini Ducati:
Trackhouse Aprilia:
Mir has yet to be officially confirmed as staying at Honda.Factory Ducati: Pecco Bagnaia, Marc Marquez
Factory Aprilia: Jorge Martin
Factory Yamaha: Fabio Quatararo
Factory KTM: Brad Binder, Pedro Acosta
Tech3 KTM: Maverick Vinales, Ennea Bastianini
Factory Honda: Luca Marini, Joan Mir
LCR Honda: Johann Zarco, Taka Nakagami or A.N. Other Asian rider
Pramac Ducati:
VR46 Ducati:
Gresini Ducati:
Trackhouse Aprilia:
New interesting news today regarding Toprak https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1050866/1/toprak...
Could be a curveball and I'm sure someone like Aprilia would do well to have him onboard.
Yazza54 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Maybe Pramac have been talking to BMW too.
About 2027 maybe.. but not 2025 Which leaves Honda (but as I said Mir is all but confirmed) or Aprilia.
Toprak isn't getting any younger and he is probably well aware of JR's history trying to get into MotoGP, if he waits for BMW it will be purely a development role as they won't be in a position to fight for wins against the current factories/teams even after a rule change and if he waits he'll be older and unlikely to get any better offers due to his age at that time. Jumping ship now gives him time to get to know the circuits, the circus, tyres all ready for hopefully a few good years in the top class.
Freakuk said:
I doubt Toprak will be in talks with Pramac given no-one knows where they'll end up, if they remain with Ducati they'll have the pick of the remaining riders, switching to Yamaha will certainly limit the lure to the best riders, I'm not sure whether Toprak would jump on a Yamaha given he didn't get a chance at a ride after his official test. Plus Keenan states he wants a factory seat.
Which leaves Honda (but as I said Mir is all but confirmed) or Aprilia.
Toprak isn't getting any younger and he is probably well aware of JR's history trying to get into MotoGP, if he waits for BMW it will be purely a development role as they won't be in a position to fight for wins against the current factories/teams even after a rule change and if he waits he'll be older and unlikely to get any better offers due to his age at that time. Jumping ship now gives him time to get to know the circuits, the circus, tyres all ready for hopefully a few good years in the top class.
The chat at the time was he was well off the other Yamaha riders on the M1. If he'd been within a second I think we'd have heard about it. MotoGP might still be a bit wary of him as who is he really beating in WSBK? Rea, Bautista, Bulega, Lowes, Redding, Gardner, Petrucci - either never weres or has beens - and not every week either. The fact that Iannone has come in and been competitive after years out banned speaks volumes about the actual standard. Which leaves Honda (but as I said Mir is all but confirmed) or Aprilia.
Toprak isn't getting any younger and he is probably well aware of JR's history trying to get into MotoGP, if he waits for BMW it will be purely a development role as they won't be in a position to fight for wins against the current factories/teams even after a rule change and if he waits he'll be older and unlikely to get any better offers due to his age at that time. Jumping ship now gives him time to get to know the circuits, the circus, tyres all ready for hopefully a few good years in the top class.
The only thing that might be for him is LCR if they decide he's Asian and bin off Nakagami if Chantra and Ogura don't want the ride.
Biker's Nemesis said:
Praise the Lord for Cal Crutchlow, our last Moto GP winner, if we're talking about awkward, cringe inducing racers talking in Interviews, look no further than Jake Dixon. I can't stand the sound of his voice. When he starts talking about mental health and all that tiresome stuff, he reminds me of a drunk teenage girl.
Proper essex.boy he is HybridTheory said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Praise the Lord for Cal Crutchlow, our last Moto GP winner, if we're talking about awkward, cringe inducing racers talking in Interviews, look no further than Jake Dixon. I can't stand the sound of his voice. When he starts talking about mental health and all that tiresome stuff, he reminds me of a drunk teenage girl.
Proper essex.boy he is 
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
The chat at the time was he was well off the other Yamaha riders on the M1. If he'd been within a second I think we'd have heard about it. MotoGP might still be a bit wary of him as who is he really beating in WSBK? Rea, Bautista, Bulega, Lowes, Redding, Gardner, Petrucci - either never weres or has beens - and not every week either. The fact that Iannone has come in and been competitive after years out banned speaks volumes about the actual standard.
The only thing that might be for him is LCR if they decide he's Asian and bin off Nakagami if Chantra and Ogura don't want the ride.
Rea- Never were or has beens? Just 6 time world champ The only thing that might be for him is LCR if they decide he's Asian and bin off Nakagami if Chantra and Ogura don't want the ride.
FourWheelDrift said:
Jonathan Rea as a 2 race replacement rider in 2012 finished 8th (Misano) and 7th in Aragon (12s in front of Rossi) he also qualified 7th, ahead of Rossi and Hayden. Experienced Tony Elias who came in for 3 races could only manage a DNF and two 11th places.
And yet the MotoGP paddock didn't bring him in. The people making the decisions - then and now - still don't value WSBK. How many WSBK riders have come over and done anything since events you cite 12 years ago?Marquezs Stabilisers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Jonathan Rea as a 2 race replacement rider in 2012 finished 8th (Misano) and 7th in Aragon (12s in front of Rossi) he also qualified 7th, ahead of Rossi and Hayden. Experienced Tony Elias who came in for 3 races could only manage a DNF and two 11th places.
And yet the MotoGP paddock didn't bring him in. The people making the decisions - then and now - still don't value WSBK. How many WSBK riders have come over and done anything since events you cite 12 years ago?egor110 said:
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Jonathan Rea as a 2 race replacement rider in 2012 finished 8th (Misano) and 7th in Aragon (12s in front of Rossi) he also qualified 7th, ahead of Rossi and Hayden. Experienced Tony Elias who came in for 3 races could only manage a DNF and two 11th places.
And yet the MotoGP paddock didn't bring him in. The people making the decisions - then and now - still don't value WSBK. How many WSBK riders have come over and done anything since events you cite 12 years ago?rodericb said:
Bez to Aprilia
Miller to Gresini.
Not sure either of these are confirmed? Miller to Gresini.
Bez to Aprilia good for both team and rider.
Jack... Oh I really don't know. Hopefully he gets some of those nice feelings back he had on a Ducati but he just seems to be struggling these days and there's lots of talent out there waiting in the wings.
rodericb said:
Bez to Aprilia
Miller to Gresini.
That's mostly just gossip from GPOne. Bez to Aprilia makes sense and sure, down the line the VR46 organisation are happy to have a foot in the Noale door.Miller to Gresini.
One piece from that gossip article - Prima, who sponsor Pramac, apparently have in the deal that they have to have an Italian rider. Most of the guys looking for a ride are Italian after all, but they do have two seats available. However, much will depend if they're Pramac Yamaha or Pramac Ducati - maybe now Marc Marquez has joined the factory the threat of Gresini running the factory bikes has receded and they'll stay.
Bucket loads of ifs in that paragraph though!
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
rodericb said:
Bez to Aprilia
Miller to Gresini.
That's mostly just gossip from GPOne. Bez to Aprilia makes sense and sure, down the line the VR46 organisation are happy to have a foot in the Noale door.Miller to Gresini.
One piece from that gossip article - Prima, who sponsor Pramac, apparently have in the deal that they have to have an Italian rider. Most of the guys looking for a ride are Italian after all, but they do have two seats available. However, much will depend if they're Pramac Yamaha or Pramac Ducati - maybe now Marc Marquez has joined the factory the threat of Gresini running the factory bikes has receded and they'll stay.
Bucket loads of ifs in that paragraph though!
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