Discussion
Yazza54 said:
He has been lobbing it off the track a fair bit and still burning his tyres up but he's immediately become the best rider KTM have, in a very Marquez esque way his way of learning is certainly finding the limit and then going over it.
One thing I’m not understanding, is the strange lines / very early turn in. Looks like he could be quicker with a more conventional turn in to me…. BUT… I’m sure he knows what he’s doing (100x more so than me).Hungrymc said:
One thing I’m not understanding, is the strange lines / very early turn in. Looks like he could be quicker with a more conventional turn in to me…. BUT… I’m sure he knows what he’s doing (100x more so than me).
Does that allow a straighter on the power exit? It's very F1 to sacrifice a long corner loaded up tyre type line for a line that evens out tyre load in the traction zone. It's no longer a constant radius curve, more a 50p piece.
Hungrymc said:
One thing I’m not understanding, is the strange lines / very early turn in. Looks like he could be quicker with a more conventional turn in to me…. BUT… I’m sure he knows what he’s doing (100x more so than me).
I think that's how he's always ridden when following, constantly in Moto3, consistently but less so in Moto2. I think it's possibly testing a braking line for a later overtake and generally unsettling the chap ahead. I'm fairly sure it isn't the fastest line. Almost psychological, like he's sizing up a move at every corner.732NM said:
Hungrymc said:
One thing I’m not understanding, is the strange lines / very early turn in. Looks like he could be quicker with a more conventional turn in to me…. BUT… I’m sure he knows what he’s doing (100x more so than me).
Does that allow a straighter on the power exit? It's very F1 to sacrifice a long corner loaded up tyre type line for a line that evens out tyre load in the traction zone. It's no longer a constant radius curve, more a 50p piece.It seems he might be doing it to compensate for the chatter the new rear has caused for the KTM, and the tyres dropping off. Going straight to the apex means he's doing more braking up right with more load, and he's using less edge grip in the corner. It's remarkable he's making it work so well.
It looks a little different to making a V of / squaring off the corner to me. Looks like he’s pushing the front very hard as he’s tipping it in earlier in the braking zone and seems to keep it cranked over harder and later in the corner… I might well be wrong, but it looks odd to me and it’s amazing that he’s so quick while doing it.
He’s brilliant to watch whatever he’s doing.
He’s brilliant to watch whatever he’s doing.
Hungrymc said:
It looks a little different to making a V of / squaring off the corner to me. Looks like he’s pushing the front very hard as he’s tipping it in earlier in the braking zone and seems to keep it cranked over harder and later in the corner… I might well be wrong, but it looks odd to me and it’s amazing that he’s so quick while doing it.
He’s brilliant to watch whatever he’s doing.
Agree, it's not a typical V'ing off, just a tight entry and really working the front hard. It almost makes it looks like he's going for do or die overtakes when he isn't, he's that tight on entry. It doesn't look right to me but he seems to be doing ok. He’s brilliant to watch whatever he’s doing.
Struggling to remember, was it catalyuna where his bike looked incredibly fast in a straight line but at mugello not so much? Wonder if a poor exit line or just lack of grip.
https://twitter.com/marcmarquez93/status/179827188...
2 year deal.
2 year deal.
Edited by Condi on Wednesday 5th June 09:41
Freakuk said:
I'm intrigued by the sponsors more than anything, how will all that pan out? Will Frankie move over to the factory team?
Where does that leave Gresini, will they keep Alex? I sense Digi may end up back there and Morbidelli move to VR46 now.
Frankie to the factory team would seem a good idea. Where does that leave Gresini, will they keep Alex? I sense Digi may end up back there and Morbidelli move to VR46 now.
After Monday's news no-one can be surprised, thankfully the main choices are made and we can focus on the racing rather than engaging in silly season idle speculation. I suspect Pramac will want to confirm their bikes quite quickly now so they can sort out their rider choices, I'm not sure Fermin is going to be a big enough draw to stick with Ducati, but there's a lot of interesting riders without seats still.
hiccy18 said:
After Monday's news no-one can be surprised, thankfully the main choices are made and we can focus on the racing rather than engaging in silly season idle speculation.
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I suspect Pramac will want to confirm their bikes quite quickly now so they can sort out their rider choices, I'm not sure Fermin is going to be a big enough draw to stick with Ducati, but there's a lot of interesting riders without seats still.
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I suspect Pramac will want to confirm their bikes quite quickly now so they can sort out their rider choices, I'm not sure Fermin is going to be a big enough draw to stick with Ducati, but there's a lot of interesting riders without seats still.
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