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I find criticism of MM93 difficult to take seriously, he's the guy who is better than the GOAT, at least on track. His popularity has never been higher, so many of us have spent years cheering on his opponents and are now willing him on. And his return to the front has brought massive entertainment in a class that was predictable for most of the last couple of seasons.
Going back to Aldegueur, I'm left with the impression that the Boscoscuro hit a spot last season that Fermin understood and could exploit but Alonso couldn't. Now there's four of them on the grid the bike looks great, Fermin less so. I do think he's got a sparkle about him, but I hope he's well supported in GP and not cast aside quickly.
Going back to Aldegueur, I'm left with the impression that the Boscoscuro hit a spot last season that Fermin understood and could exploit but Alonso couldn't. Now there's four of them on the grid the bike looks great, Fermin less so. I do think he's got a sparkle about him, but I hope he's well supported in GP and not cast aside quickly.
CypSIdders said:
Freakuk said:
.......but it's not elbow to elbow racing is it?
Neither is MotoGP once the first few corners are over and done with!Other than Sunday, the overtakes have been incredible, Saturday I think there was one short with 6-7 riders in the shot and 3 seperate overtakes where going on, I had to rewatch it several times to figure out what had happened.
Hungrymc said:
This is where I am, I have a suspicion that Pecco and JM etc are not quite at the very top table (Marc at his best, peak Rossi etc). We’ll never know for sure now and maybe I’m being unfair anyway. I think Marc properly having to fight is a joy to watch, I fear on equal machinery, even with Marc having lost a little of his mojo will be ahead of the current field,.. Hope I’m wrong. And I hope the Aprilia and the KTM become a proper match for the Ducati.
I’d totally agree. Pecco and Martin are great riders, but they’re not the class above that lots of the alien era riders, or all time greats have been Marquez is still the best rider on the grid currently, and if he had a 24 bike and understood how to ride it, this season would be a very different proposition
Acosta is up there in ability too, way more than the Pecco and Martin, and it’s hard to argue that when he gets into his groove, he’s likely to dominate GP for many years to come
CypSIdders said:
Freakuk said:
.......but it's not elbow to elbow racing is it?
Neither is MotoGP once the first few corners are over and done with!I keep hearing from people who don't watch it that they don't watch it because it's not entertaining whilst they are simultaneously missing the most entertaining season in a long time.
graeme4130 said:
Hungrymc said:
This is where I am, I have a suspicion that Pecco and JM etc are not quite at the very top table (Marc at his best, peak Rossi etc). We’ll never know for sure now and maybe I’m being unfair anyway. I think Marc properly having to fight is a joy to watch, I fear on equal machinery, even with Marc having lost a little of his mojo will be ahead of the current field,.. Hope I’m wrong. And I hope the Aprilia and the KTM become a proper match for the Ducati.
I’d totally agree. Pecco and Martin are great riders, but they’re not the class above that lots of the alien era riders, or all time greats have been Marquez is still the best rider on the grid currently, and if he had a 24 bike and understood how to ride it, this season would be a very different proposition
Acosta is up there in ability too, way more than the Pecco and Martin, and it’s hard to argue that when he gets into his groove, he’s likely to dominate GP for many years to come
graeme4130 said:
I'd disagree quite strongly there. Mugello was boring, I think anyone would admit that, but generally GP has been very good this year, and the sprints have made the weekend's racing exciting for both days.
WSBK has good races, and some boring ones too, as does BSB very rarely (Navarra for example)
As for real roads, that's genuinely some of the most boring TV viewing going as the coverage is basically terrible, and although the NW200 has some overtakes, it's typically slip streaming on the straights, or getting caught up in back markers in the last sector
IOM TT, whilst incredible to watch on site, is unbelievably boring to watch as the TT format means they're not overtaking each other on the road, and the timing systems displayed on the screen are confusing and sometimes misleading
Funny, I find the TT footage mind blowing, it's proper edge of your seat enthralling. WSBK has good races, and some boring ones too, as does BSB very rarely (Navarra for example)
As for real roads, that's genuinely some of the most boring TV viewing going as the coverage is basically terrible, and although the NW200 has some overtakes, it's typically slip streaming on the straights, or getting caught up in back markers in the last sector
IOM TT, whilst incredible to watch on site, is unbelievably boring to watch as the TT format means they're not overtaking each other on the road, and the timing systems displayed on the screen are confusing and sometimes misleading
I also find circuit superbike racing crap, the bikes look too heavy and unwieldy.
MotoGP has been great half of last and all this year, it bodes well for the remainder of the season.
As to F1, since the end of 2021 it's been garbage, but the new fan demographic numbers are either lies, or the new generation enjoy the off track bulls
t more than racing.Biker's Nemesis said:
732NM said:
As to F1, since the end of 2021 it's been garbage, but the new fan demographic numbers are either lies, or the new generation enjoy the off track bullst more than racing.
Just like Moto GP now.t more than racing.t. There are no overtaking moves, it's just corporate networking. Boring drivers, even more boring people trying to make utterly st racing into some kind of 'strategy'. It's durge. carlo996 said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
732NM said:
As to F1, since the end of 2021 it's been garbage, but the new fan demographic numbers are either lies, or the new generation enjoy the off track bullst more than racing.
Just like Moto GP now.t more than racing.t. There are no overtaking moves, it's just corporate networking. Boring drivers, even more boring people trying to make utterly st racing into some kind of 'strategy'. It's durge. 732NM said:
Gotcha, I don't know, they seem to be enjoying the racing.
Everything evolves except me, I just like seeing them banging fairings etc but it seems to me that more seem to get the most enjoyment from where riders may or may not be going, this year, next year or whatever. Give it a few more years and It'll be all about the drama. I hope I am wrong but if I am not then what can I do apart from stop watching it.
732NM said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
732NM said:
or the new generation enjoy the off track bullsht more than racing.
Chopped your quote for clarification.Anyway, I don't think that's where MotoGP is. Didn't they try a similar Netflix thing and it was a flop?
I'm just delighted that a combination of factors (great riders on slightly inferior bikes being one) has lead to some fantastically entertaining races this year.
Mugello aside.
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