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2ndclasscitizen said:
A big problem the Americans have is that they are also having to move to Europe to race. Garett Gerloff in WSBK has talked about how on top of learning the tracks, bikes, team etc they also have to learn to live overseas with other cultures. I'm pretty sure I read that Beaubier was gettign really homesick and just not enjoying life in Europe. The guys who go early can learn to deal with it as kids when they're a lot less settled but I could absolutely see it being harder in your late 20s like Beaubier was when he went to Moto2.
You'd think they'd at least move to London then where you can fly to anywhere in Europe easily but there's no language barrier. Marquezs Stabilisers said:
You'd think they'd at least move to London then where you can fly to anywhere in Europe easily but there's no language barrier.
They move to Spain and Italy because they can drive anywhere they want easily. Also its warmer/sunnier so they can ride all year round instead of winter curtailing their riding window. Why move to a Europe and base yourself somewhere that you have to travel away from anyway.Some move to Andorra for... other reasons.
Day 1 of the Malaysia test, test riders and rookie Acosta.
KTM look to be in good shape - https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1043944/1/202...
KTM look to be in good shape - https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1043944/1/202...
Yazza54 said:
Drabbesttunic said:
Yazza54 said:
2ndclasscitizen said:
On Motomatters David Emmett noted that Gresini had a big dollar title sponsorship offer but turned it down in order to maintain their existing sponsor relationships as the assumption from all sides is Marc is there for 2024 only.
That's probably right and it's a shame, I think Gresini are rapidly becoming my new favourite team... But if Marc does what many of us think he's capable of there will be many doors open for 2025. Particularly if Repsol could be looking at another team too.
KTM seems a obvious one but if Pedro does well he will want to step into the factory team. I think KTM will drop Miller but not Binder.
Aprilia are a dark horse and have been for a while now, I would love to see a top, consistent and prolific winner on one, more likely to be Fabio than Marc though.
It'll be interesting to see how Yam and Honda do with the extra testing but I suppose if they don't know what they're doing then going round in circles more won't necessarily help unless it just allows them additional shots in the dark and one of them hits!
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
Freakuk said:
Binders contract isn't up at the end of the year, I think he signed for 3 years so he is out of sync with pretty much everyone else. Assuming Acosta goes well I see him replacing Jack, will Jack move to GasGas?
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
In my minds eye I never see Marc on a factory Ducati. Well a red one anyway. I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
Tam_Mullen said:
Freakuk said:
Binders contract isn't up at the end of the year, I think he signed for 3 years so he is out of sync with pretty much everyone else. Assuming Acosta goes well I see him replacing Jack, will Jack move to GasGas?
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
In my minds eye I never see Marc on a factory Ducati. Well a red one anyway. I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
Back to the Aprilia livery, Hmmmm it's very 'Merican isn't it? I'm not a fan on an Italian bike with no US riders... BUT I am sure that it will attract more Yanks to the sport and that's exactly what Dorna need, bums on seats and Video Pass subscriptions.
I assume given the hopeful additional coverage this may bring it will see more US riders trying to get into MotoGP, Dorna need to step up here, likewise for UK riders, maybe there isn't the talent currently which would ring true if the likes of Loris Baz are back to Warhorse Ducati for 2024.
Freakuk said:
Binders contract isn't up at the end of the year, I think he signed for 3 years so he is out of sync with pretty much everyone else. Assuming Acosta goes well I see him replacing Jack, will Jack move to GasGas?
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
Jack should be off here at the end of the season: https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/work.I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
The one thing that might save him is that this is probably the weakest RedBull KTM Moto2 team in some years. I can't see Celestino Vietti or Deniz Oncu winning the title this year, which means the Moto2 world champion won't automatically want a RedBull KTM family seat. If Vietti does win, he's part of the VR46 crew anyway.
Marquezs Stabilisers said:
Freakuk said:
Binders contract isn't up at the end of the year, I think he signed for 3 years so he is out of sync with pretty much everyone else. Assuming Acosta goes well I see him replacing Jack, will Jack move to GasGas?
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
Jack should be off here at the end of the season: https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/work.I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
The one thing that might save him is that this is probably the weakest RedBull KTM Moto2 team in some years. I can't see Celestino Vietti or Deniz Oncu winning the title this year, which means the Moto2 world champion won't automatically want a RedBull KTM family seat. If Vietti does win, he's part of the VR46 crew anyway.
Freakuk said:
Yazza54 said:
Drabbesttunic said:
Yazza54 said:
2ndclasscitizen said:
On Motomatters David Emmett noted that Gresini had a big dollar title sponsorship offer but turned it down in order to maintain their existing sponsor relationships as the assumption from all sides is Marc is there for 2024 only.
That's probably right and it's a shame, I think Gresini are rapidly becoming my new favourite team... But if Marc does what many of us think he's capable of there will be many doors open for 2025. Particularly if Repsol could be looking at another team too.
KTM seems a obvious one but if Pedro does well he will want to step into the factory team. I think KTM will drop Miller but not Binder.
Aprilia are a dark horse and have been for a while now, I would love to see a top, consistent and prolific winner on one, more likely to be Fabio than Marc though.
It'll be interesting to see how Yam and Honda do with the extra testing but I suppose if they don't know what they're doing then going round in circles more won't necessarily help unless it just allows them additional shots in the dark and one of them hits!
I doubt Marc would want a 2nd rate bike in 2025, so he's either going back to Honda and replace Mir, or he'll stay at Ducati and move up into the big red team or worst case Pramac on a factory spec GP 25.
I get that some may struggle with Marquez on the factory bike, but I'm not so sure they'd be bothered if he's in championship winning form, not to mention I'm sure he could bring a lot with him to a factory team and with his following do no harm in other areas such as bike sales.
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