wife needs 5 series, advice please

wife needs 5 series, advice please

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silverback mike

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11,290 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Wifey is changing her car for a second hand 5 series (e39???)
I fancy a 528i, but is a 523i the best option, and is the 520i too slow?
I would anticipate the best value vehicle is the 523i, but 520's are significantly cheaper.
Also, does anyone have any experience, good or bad with each model.
Ta in advance
Mike.

XM5ER

5,094 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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Experience of a 520 is that they are pitifully slow and thirstier than both the 523 and 528. The 528 is nicer to drive than the 523, more torque but unless your wife is an enthusiast she probably would be bothered by the difference. Also 520s are a bugger to shift second hand (hence why they are cheaper).

If you are buying any of the above and they are manufactured between '96 and '98 they will have alusil engines which are prone to bore wear (as opposed to BMW drivers who are prone to bore women). Check any potential cars to see if they have had an engine change, if not, make sure you have a FBMWSH as you can still get them to cough up if it does fail.

My personal opinion is go for the 528, there isnt much in it on fuel consumption and they are definitely that bit nicer to drive.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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The bigger the engine the better - the car mags rave about the 528 being teh best compromise.

ScoobyZoom

6,578 posts

253 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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agree with mondeo man, 528 if you can 523 good alternative. get auto and get leather. MOST IMPORTANT FBMWSH!!

sohlman

590 posts

259 months

Thursday 9th October 2003
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We have a 99 528ise In Black with the manual gearbox. Absolutly fantastic car. No difference in fuel consumption between 523 and 528. Just got 35MPG going to Manchester and back at 90-100mph average. Must have FBMWSH and watch out for electric faults. It seems to be the only thing that goes wrong with them. Would recomend buying a car with an extended BMW warenty which you can keep on extending untill the car has done 100,000 miles. Well worth having. If you get a 2000 model you will get a facelift, and the sport models are well worth getting. Lets face it they look a lot better. A late model 520i is also worth considering as has 170BHP the same as the 523. Good luck

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

258 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Thanks for the replies.
Glad the overriding opinion is for the 528i. I will start looking for one of those then rather than 523i. We don't do that many miles in her car so the petrol consumption shouldn't be that bad.
I presume only go for one with FBMWSH or a new engine. Due to the nicasil problem?
Problem is though scooby she doesn't like auto or leather....

>> Edited by silverback mike on Friday 10th October 10:14

spiralp

143 posts

258 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Just to be different, if you are getting a manual then I would go for the 523.

I believe the 2.5 litre engine in the 523 is smoother than the 528 and revs more freely. If you go auto then you will not rev the engine as high and then the 528 is the best bet with its higher torque.

Also, if the car is for your wife she will slide around on standard leather seats. She will be much happier with cloth sports seats, which are narrower and give more support.

FBMWSH is essential, but they (BMW) are happy to extend this well beyond 100,000 miles. I have a letter in front of me now offering to extend my warranty for a further year and the car (330i) has already done almost 100,000 miles. Not cheap though, £454 for a 3 series and £566 for a 5 series.

Your wife will love the car, if my wife's comments about our 525 are anything to go by.

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

258 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Thanks spiralp, thats good to hear as she is a little unsure whether it may be a bit big for her. I was thinking that it would be a better bet to go for a newer shape 5 series rather than an E36 3 series as it is altogether more modern.

sohlman

590 posts

259 months

Friday 10th October 2003
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Only quarm we have about our manual 528 is the fly by wire throttle, post 99 cars only. It makes driving between 1mph and 5mph ie in a traffic jam very difficult as the throttle is so sensitive. The car does stationary or 5mph and anything in between is impossible without slipping the clutch.

SommatGud

8 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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TELL HER THAT THE MIRROR IS FOR LOOKING BEHIND AND NOT FOR PUTTIN LIPSTICK ON AND TELL HER TO THANK PEOPLE WHEN THEY LET HER PULL OUT

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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I'm having a look at a 528 tomorrow, there is a definate lack of 523's around.

I reckon silver is a good colour, any other views.

silverback mike

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11,290 posts

258 months

Thursday 16th October 2003
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SommatGud said:
TELL HER THAT THE MIRROR IS FOR LOOKING BEHIND AND NOT FOR PUTTIN LIPSTICK ON AND TELL HER TO THANK PEOPLE WHEN THEY LET HER PULL OUT

Thank you.

XM5ER

5,094 posts

253 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Its amazing how difficult it is to find a 523 whenyou're not looking for one!

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st October 2003
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Thanks for the advice. Today I bought a smashing 523ise at auction. 1 owner, all the toys etc....
Big happy smiling Mike....

gazzab

21,188 posts

287 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Why is FBMWSH such a big deal?
I have a 94 525iSE touring and use a local garage and have had no big bills in 4 yrs. The car is now only worth £3K or something like that.
I am thinking of getting my wife a 528i Touring (auto, leather, aircon etc). If I go for a 98 / 99 car them I dont expect all to be BMW SH and I would not necessarily use BMW thereafter. As long as a car is well presented, all in order and well cared for then I dont car for the BMW SH. Especially as I wouldnt expect a warranty on a car that age.
am i missing something?

gazzab

21,188 posts

287 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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ps what does one pay for such a car?

silverback mike

Original Poster:

11,290 posts

258 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Gazz,
The reason I wanted a car with BMW FSH is in regard to the Nicasil bore wear problem. There is no comeback if you have a nicasil problem and the car is serviced outside of the dealer network.
Plus, they are pretty good at looking after them (as are other garages though)
I had the bargain of the day at auction last week,
Bought a 99 523ise in Aspen silver, 1 previous owner, good miles in exceptional condition with FBMWSH for £6000. The service history checks out (Thank you scoobyzoom) and the car drives as it should.
Generally they are about 1k more than that.
They are a lot better than the E34 (Which is still a nice car ) and I have certainly not regretted buying it at all.
PS. The nicasil problem shouldn't present itself if you buy a car built post Sept 1998.

gazzab

21,188 posts

287 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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Cheers.
sorry what is the nicasil bore problem ?

According to PArkers a 99 T 528iSE Touring Auto is worth £14300 !!! Do they actually go for this? I might ask a chap from my local BMW dealer to find me a part ex they dont want.

ScoobyZoom

6,578 posts

253 months

Monday 27th October 2003
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gazzab said:
Cheers.
sorry what is the nicasil bore problem ?

According to PArkers a 99 T 528iSE Touring Auto is worth £14300 !!! Do they actually go for this? I might ask a chap from my local BMW dealer to find me a part ex they dont want.


Nicasil bore problem = too much sulpher in our petrol burns the bores out and top end of engine needs replacing. BMW will pay for this upto 100,000 miles as long as it has FSH with BMW.

Parkers isnt far out (for a change) as long as it has leather expect to pay around £15k off a BMW dealer forecourt as long as it has under 40k on the clock. Trade price for said vehicle is more like 12-13 dependant on spec and colour mate. hope that helps.

silverback mike

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11,290 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th October 2003
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Wifey doesn't like the 5. Which is quite a result for me. This means the old faithfull 325i touring is being sold, and wifey wants a VW Golf (I thought she had learnt her lesson with the last sh1te Golf GTI Turbo she had)....
Off to the auctions again......

Anyone want my 325i, its a good old bus.....