Z4 much difference between 2.5 7 3.0L?
Discussion
Hi,
I have a 3.0.... although it is supercharged now
I test drove the 2.2, 2.5 and 3.0. Naturally the 3.0 quickest. I found the 2.5 an oddball, I acutally preferred the 2.2, it was just as quick when up to speed and very relaxing to drive slowly.
The 3.0 won't cost you more in servicing, road tax, just small increase in fuel. It's a no brainer really.
You also have to remember the 3.0 comes with a lot more equipment as standard.....
G
I have a 3.0.... although it is supercharged now
I test drove the 2.2, 2.5 and 3.0. Naturally the 3.0 quickest. I found the 2.5 an oddball, I acutally preferred the 2.2, it was just as quick when up to speed and very relaxing to drive slowly. The 3.0 won't cost you more in servicing, road tax, just small increase in fuel. It's a no brainer really.
You also have to remember the 3.0 comes with a lot more equipment as standard.....
G
I'd be surprised if the 3.0i was lower spec than a 2.5i, when I was shopping around I found the opposite to be true.
The 3.0i comes with leather, electrically adjustable seats, (nice, i.e. acceptable) 17" alloys, sports suspension, metallic paint and headlamp wash as standard (and that's not an exhaustive list). It also has six gears. As a result the only options you need to look around for are bigger wheels if you want them, and Sat Nav if you want it.
In terms of performance, the 3.0i will be noticably superior, but it'll be rare that you can use the difference. Whilst the manufacturers technical specs suggest virtually identical fuel consumption, I suspect that's a case of massaging the combined cycle for better numbers, I'd expect 3 to 5 mpg better in a 2.5i than in my 3.0i. There's also a noticable difference in the cost to insure between the different motors.
G makes a good point regarding the 2.2i. With your budget I'd be inclined to go with one of them, as performance will be akin to the 2.5i but the motor is lighter and sounds a lot more special. You don't get the Sport button on the 2.2i, but then I doubt the 2.2i or 2.5i have much use for it anyway.
The 3.0i comes with leather, electrically adjustable seats, (nice, i.e. acceptable) 17" alloys, sports suspension, metallic paint and headlamp wash as standard (and that's not an exhaustive list). It also has six gears. As a result the only options you need to look around for are bigger wheels if you want them, and Sat Nav if you want it.
In terms of performance, the 3.0i will be noticably superior, but it'll be rare that you can use the difference. Whilst the manufacturers technical specs suggest virtually identical fuel consumption, I suspect that's a case of massaging the combined cycle for better numbers, I'd expect 3 to 5 mpg better in a 2.5i than in my 3.0i. There's also a noticable difference in the cost to insure between the different motors.
G makes a good point regarding the 2.2i. With your budget I'd be inclined to go with one of them, as performance will be akin to the 2.5i but the motor is lighter and sounds a lot more special. You don't get the Sport button on the 2.2i, but then I doubt the 2.2i or 2.5i have much use for it anyway.
abarber said:
Chaps,
I'm currently looking at an 04 3ltr, has to be a 3.0 really after having a 911. The extra torque makes it so much easier and relaxing to drive.
Anything in particular to look for on Z4s?
Thanks,
Al.
I have just finished looking for one (picked up a 3.0 today), and I'd only say that there are enough absolutley immaculate ones around that you can afford to walk away from anything with any imperfections.I'm currently looking at an 04 3ltr, has to be a 3.0 really after having a 911. The extra torque makes it so much easier and relaxing to drive.
Anything in particular to look for on Z4s?
Thanks,
Al.
NorthernBoy said:
abarber said:
Chaps,
I'm currently looking at an 04 3ltr, has to be a 3.0 really after having a 911. The extra torque makes it so much easier and relaxing to drive.
Anything in particular to look for on Z4s?
Thanks,
Al.
I have just finished looking for one (picked up a 3.0 today), and I'd only say that there are enough absolutley immaculate ones around that you can afford to walk away from anything with any imperfections.I'm currently looking at an 04 3ltr, has to be a 3.0 really after having a 911. The extra torque makes it so much easier and relaxing to drive.
Anything in particular to look for on Z4s?
Thanks,
Al.
Andrew D said:
I'd be surprised if the 3.0i was lower spec than a 2.5i, when I was shopping around I found the opposite to be true.
The 3.0i comes with leather, electrically adjustable seats, (nice, i.e. acceptable) 17" alloys, sports suspension, metallic paint and headlamp wash as standard (and that's not an exhaustive list). It also has six gears. As a result the only options you need to look around for are bigger wheels if you want them, and Sat Nav if you want it.
In terms of performance, the 3.0i will be noticably superior, but it'll be rare that you can use the difference. Whilst the manufacturers technical specs suggest virtually identical fuel consumption, I suspect that's a case of massaging the combined cycle for better numbers, I'd expect 3 to 5 mpg better in a 2.5i than in my 3.0i. There's also a noticable difference in the cost to insure between the different motors.
G makes a good point regarding the 2.2i. With your budget I'd be inclined to go with one of them, as performance will be akin to the 2.5i but the motor is lighter and sounds a lot more special. You don't get the Sport button on the 2.2i, but then I doubt the 2.2i or 2.5i have much use for it anyway.
What makes the 2.2 lighter than the 2.5?The 3.0i comes with leather, electrically adjustable seats, (nice, i.e. acceptable) 17" alloys, sports suspension, metallic paint and headlamp wash as standard (and that's not an exhaustive list). It also has six gears. As a result the only options you need to look around for are bigger wheels if you want them, and Sat Nav if you want it.
In terms of performance, the 3.0i will be noticably superior, but it'll be rare that you can use the difference. Whilst the manufacturers technical specs suggest virtually identical fuel consumption, I suspect that's a case of massaging the combined cycle for better numbers, I'd expect 3 to 5 mpg better in a 2.5i than in my 3.0i. There's also a noticable difference in the cost to insure between the different motors.
G makes a good point regarding the 2.2i. With your budget I'd be inclined to go with one of them, as performance will be akin to the 2.5i but the motor is lighter and sounds a lot more special. You don't get the Sport button on the 2.2i, but then I doubt the 2.2i or 2.5i have much use for it anyway.
Andrew D said:
FesterNath said:
What makes the 2.2 lighter than the 2.5?
That fact that it's a smaller block. The 2.5i has the same block as the 3.0i, only shorter stroke. As evidenced by the technical specs.
Sport button on 2.5 does make a difference, particularly if you have an SMG box. Throttle response is noticeably different and the weight on the steering changes too. I tend to drive my car in non-sport mode in the urban jungle, then hit the magic button when the roads open up.
I can't say I have studied the figures much (could someone post 2.2/2.5/3.0 for pre-facelift cars?), but I had a feeling that the 2.5 was midway between 2.2 and 3.0 in bhp terms (unsure about torque) and similarly in acceleration, top speed is largely irrelevant but IIRC 2.2 142mph, 2.5 149mph 3.0 155mph (governed).
As far as choice is concerned you should find many more 2.5s than 2.2s as the latter was late to the party; watch the spec too 2.5s and 3.0s came in SE trim as standard, but I believe there was a "basic" 2.2 without the electric roof.
Satisfied 2.5 owner (just sailed its second MOT), but one who looks longingly at the silver grilled 3.0s (lesser cars have blick kidney inserts)
I can't say I have studied the figures much (could someone post 2.2/2.5/3.0 for pre-facelift cars?), but I had a feeling that the 2.5 was midway between 2.2 and 3.0 in bhp terms (unsure about torque) and similarly in acceleration, top speed is largely irrelevant but IIRC 2.2 142mph, 2.5 149mph 3.0 155mph (governed).
As far as choice is concerned you should find many more 2.5s than 2.2s as the latter was late to the party; watch the spec too 2.5s and 3.0s came in SE trim as standard, but I believe there was a "basic" 2.2 without the electric roof.
Satisfied 2.5 owner (just sailed its second MOT), but one who looks longingly at the silver grilled 3.0s (lesser cars have blick kidney inserts)
2.2i = 170bhp
2.5i = 192bhp
3.0i = 231bhp
All three pre-facelift models were SE trim. The 2.0i (140bhp) was the only one that gave you a choice of SE or not. So the only difference between the 2.2i and the 2.5i is 22bhp and the Sport button.
Incidentally, I'm not sure if the lack of the Sport button is as cut-and-dried as it might at first seem. I suspect that the steering and throttle response on the 2.2i will be a halfway house between the "Normal" and Sport settings on the 2.5i/3.0i, rather than just being the "Normal" setting.
2.5i = 192bhp
3.0i = 231bhp
All three pre-facelift models were SE trim. The 2.0i (140bhp) was the only one that gave you a choice of SE or not. So the only difference between the 2.2i and the 2.5i is 22bhp and the Sport button.
Incidentally, I'm not sure if the lack of the Sport button is as cut-and-dried as it might at first seem. I suspect that the steering and throttle response on the 2.2i will be a halfway house between the "Normal" and Sport settings on the 2.5i/3.0i, rather than just being the "Normal" setting.
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