Bird Poo

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996 sps

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6,165 posts

224 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Brought my 320CD in Jan this year, parked it up at GFs and the little feathered vermin decided to crap on my bonnet, got this off within 2 hours, tried polish everything but it has melted the paint on the bonnet in 3 places (where it was).

The car is a year 05, again as I mentioned brought it in Jan 07.

Question is am I in my rights to complain about this? I'll be honest i'm fuming as I have rang the dealership and they have not contacted me once, different when you want to purchase though!

Advice would be so appreciated!

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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No, sorry. This is classed as fall out and is not covered by warranty. I know of nothing that will protect against bird lime. Even the paint sealant products only claim that they may help to protect against bird poo but they dont. Depends how bad it is but it can usually be removed with some fine compound and a machine or flatten the area and polish. You could speak with your local dealers bodyshop and they may be able to help remove it, good luck.

ETA - Take the car to them, insist someone has a look. If it can be removed it will only take a few minutes to correct.

Edited by m3evo2 on Wednesday 16th May 21:07

ShropshireMike

23,547 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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Yes - bird rubbish is terrible stuff - seagull stuff seems particularly bad - watch out if you everpark in St. Ives or Polperro down in Cornwall! curse

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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ShropshireMike said:
Yes - bird rubbish is terrible stuff - seagull stuff seems particularly bad - watch out if you everpark in St. Ives or Polperro down in Cornwall! curse


Off on hols to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, visit the outlaws but taking the van the birds can crap all they like hehe

blackspider

1,038 posts

217 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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I recommend a 12 bore shot gun (not for the dealer)

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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blackspider said:
I recommend a 12 bore shot gun (not for the dealer)


Oh if only and again no not for the dealer hehe

ShropshireMike

23,547 posts

211 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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m3evo2 said:
ShropshireMike said:
Yes - bird rubbish is terrible stuff - seagull stuff seems particularly bad - watch out if you everpark in St. Ives or Polperro down in Cornwall! curse


Off on hols to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, visit the outlaws but taking the van the birds can crap all they like hehe


Dunno if I could NOT take an M3 over a van on my hols...

I'd be taking a big car cover instead!

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Wednesday 16th May 2007
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ShropshireMike said:
m3evo2 said:
ShropshireMike said:
Yes - bird rubbish is terrible stuff - seagull stuff seems particularly bad - watch out if you everpark in St. Ives or Polperro down in Cornwall! curse


Off on hols to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, visit the outlaws but taking the van the birds can crap all they like hehe


Dunno if I could NOT take an M3 over a van on my hols...

I'd be taking a big car cover instead!


I have one of these to take with me hehe

996 sps

Original Poster:

6,165 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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m3evo2 said:
No, sorry. This is classed as fall out and is not covered by warranty. I know of nothing that will protect against bird lime. Even the paint sealant products only claim that they may help to protect against bird poo but they dont. Depends how bad it is but it can usually be removed with some fine compound and a machine or flatten the area and polish. You could speak with your local dealers bodyshop and they may be able to help remove it, good luck.

ETA - Take the car to them, insist someone has a look. If it can be removed it will only take a few minutes to correct.

Edited by m3evo2 on Wednesday 16th May 21:07


Tried T-Cut still no joy

Andrew D

968 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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My car seems to have become a magnet for generous helpings guano of late. By the size of the impacts I think it must be an eagle that's leaving it. And I expect that delivery of such large payloads must have proved fatal!

It says somewhere in the car care literature that you should get "bird lime" (what an amusing term for it) off the paintwork pronto. I polish mine with Meguires Techwax which seems to provide a certain level of protection, in that the guano only knackers the polish finish and spares the paint. Meaning it only results in another five hours application on an non-sunny non-rainy day, rather than a respray.

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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996 sps said:
m3evo2 said:
No, sorry. This is classed as fall out and is not covered by warranty. I know of nothing that will protect against bird lime. Even the paint sealant products only claim that they may help to protect against bird poo but they dont. Depends how bad it is but it can usually be removed with some fine compound and a machine or flatten the area and polish. You could speak with your local dealers bodyshop and they may be able to help remove it, good luck.

ETA - Take the car to them, insist someone has a look. If it can be removed it will only take a few minutes to correct.

Edited by m3evo2 on Wednesday 16th May 21:07


Tried T-Cut still no joy


T-cut is too weak you need to use a slightly stronger cutting compound something that will cut back the lacquer ideally used in conjunction with a machine. I use a 3M product called Finesse which is used for final prep after paintwork to remove fine scratches and swirls. Failing that very very fine wet & dry (daisy wheel) used gently to remove the damaged layers of lacquer then polished to bring back to life but don't try this yourself. As said, take the car to the dealer, ask to see the bodyshop manager show him the problem and see if he can get someone to have a look for you. It doesn't take long to sort or at least improve upon which it most deffinately can be.

deva link

26,934 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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I used AutoGlym Paint Renovator on daughters Metallic Black Seat Ibiza which had a large bird-poo stain on the bonnet. Worked a treat, but it's a bit scary to use if you've only ever used T-Cut (it feels very harsh, and you can really feel it cutting).

My car has had a paint treatment (was done when I got it) and it does seem to make a difference - suff washes off easily and hasn't yet ever left a mark (car is 2 yrs old now).

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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Unfortunately I think BMW's commitment to the environment and the use of water based paints leaves their cars more vulnerable to fall out and bird lime for some reason.

deva link

26,934 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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m3evo2 said:
Unfortunately I think BMW's commitment to the environment and the use of water based paints leaves their cars more vulnerable to fall out and bird lime for some reason.

They're all water based now.

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Thursday 17th May 2007
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I appreciate that but the brand new BMW's I see and work with on a daily basis have some form of paint contamination from the outset inc. a lovely new M5 I prep'd today. Whereas I understand other marques to have a far more resilient finish.

colinrob

1,199 posts

259 months

Friday 18th May 2007
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My wifes slk had bad bird poo stains I used 1000 grit wet and dry then t cut then polish, shit myself at first when the wet and dry seemed to make it worse but with a bit of elbow grease it was as new. (use a finer wet and dry if you can) The stains are only in the lacquer not the paint.

m3evo2

2,064 posts

216 months

Friday 18th May 2007
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colinrob said:
My wifes slk had bad bird poo stains I used 1000 grit wet and dry then t cut then polish, shit myself at first when the wet and dry seemed to make it worse but with a bit of elbow grease it was as new. (use a finer wet and dry if you can) The stains are only in the lacquer not the paint.



Yes it's a very unnatural and unnerving feeling taking wet and dry paper to paintwork especially when you see the results yikes but major relief and satisfaction when polished back to a shine again.