I know nothing about BMW but...

I know nothing about BMW but...

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tdo

Original Poster:

50 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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I'm thinking of buying an old 320 (see pic below for shape) what should i look out for when buying? what are the good and bad points about these cars?



m3evo2

2,064 posts

214 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Check the usual suspects, history, electics, rust, smoke. Mine was very reliable. Listen to engine, sound OK? How does it drive, smooth, jerk free? Gearbox select gears OK? Do check for rust! Not very quick but very smooth engine, this should reflect through the car. i.e. smooooth. 139bhp and 120odd torque IIRC, depending upon age. Check clutch, some can suffer from the wobbles and will bounce until up to speed if very bad. Just make sure everything works, nothings leaking and it's not smoking.

Edit - did i mention rust (wheel arches, skuttle panel, sun roof, rear number plate lights area)

P.S. Is the boot dry? seals around the rear lights can go.


Edited by m3evo2 on Wednesday 7th February 21:15

tdo

Original Poster:

50 posts

218 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Is rust a big problem on them? (I'm a ford man so rust doesn't scare me)

m3evo2

2,064 posts

214 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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It can be a problem yes. I'm struggling to think of any real issues with them, as I say mine was very reliable to the point of it being left in a garage for 7 years, hooked up a new battery and she started on the button. Only problem everything else was knackered

Vee

3,101 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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My old mans finally gave up this year after 170k. The only thing that went wrong with it was frnt ball joints and exhaust.
It was a daily driver that he neglected to service properly, contributing to its early demise.

whitey7

34 posts

222 months

Wednesday 7th February 2007
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Any reason your targeting the 320? They are no more econimical than the 325 and you get quite a bit more power with the 2.5 (170 brake). Okay the 2 litre is a smoother engine but the 2.5 wins hand down in my book.

Look for rust in the front scuttle where it meets the wing (view with bonnet open). Check for damp carpets (another good sign). Rear arches rot (but less than fords) as does the rear of the cills. Cills also can hole where the meet the floor pan underneath. Lower parts of front wings behind the wheels suffer badly especially if the car has had factory mudflaps, mud build up behind the flap put together with the fact that the flap chafes the paint away equals problems.

Look in the history for head gasket problems and ensure the problem has been sorted. At about the 100k mark, 9/10 of the M20 6 cylinders need a head gasket. Heads can crack so close check is wise. Ensure the temp gauge reaches temperature and the engine does not run cool (a sure sign that the stats been removed to mask overheating). Apart from that (and the odd idle issue) they are pretty bomb proof.

Interior trim is easy (loads on eBay and down the breakers).

Everything is available from the dealers and places like GSF. Buy a good 'un and you won't regret it.

tdo

Original Poster:

50 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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thanks for the info, what insurance group are they? (I live in a bad area) I may go for the 2.5 but the engine won't be in it that long

whitey7

34 posts

222 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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320 saloon is a 14, 325 is a 15. Get into a sport model and it rises to 16.

cpas

1,661 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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...and don't expect to get round any corners or roundabouts in the wet!!!

m3evo2

2,064 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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cpas said:
...and don't expect to get round any corners or roundabouts in the wet!!!


not to mention the snow...

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

214 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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cpas said:
...and don't expect to get round any corners or roundabouts in the wet!!!

....any other way than sideways !

tdo

Original Poster:

50 posts

218 months

Saturday 10th February 2007
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do any of them come or can they be fitted with a LSD?

m3evo2

2,064 posts

214 months

Saturday 10th February 2007
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The 325i Sport came fitted with LSD IIRC


Edited by m3evo2 on Saturday 10th February 17:18

road_terrorist

5,591 posts

248 months

Monday 12th February 2007
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tdo said:
do any of them come or can they be fitted with a LSD?


Most 'Sport' models came with LSD as standard or an option, 325i Sport and last of the E30 line 318iS certainly had them. The E34 525i Sport also came with one and should be a fairly straight forward swap into an E30 as well.

LSD's from other contemporary BMW models should fit, though there are sometimes small variations between models and even within models. Look underneath on the diff case and look for a letter S, the code should be stamped on there and be something like 'S 3.25', which would indicate a Limited Slip Differential with 3.23:1 ratio. There are quite a large number of variable ratios around though, this link will give you a vague idea of what's possible and easily interchangeable.
http://data.bmrparts.com/bmwparts/326

cpas

1,661 posts

246 months

Tuesday 13th February 2007
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tdo said:
do any of them come or can they be fitted with a LSD?
..yes mine did, but this just meant both wheels lit up out of junctions rather than just the inside one - so you end up going sideways out of junctions rather than just spinning one wheel!!!