Roll Cages

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me01mp

Original Poster:

74 posts

227 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Folks,

Where can i get a 2nd hand roll cage for my E30 325i - not one that's been crashed and bent, but one out of a car which is no longer used/stripped... any ideas?

Ideally we want a multi point weld in number. Alternatively, where's good to get a new one?

ALSO.. i need an LSD for the same car.. preferably a silly high ratio - 4.73 or something..

Any help would be great..

Martin

Raify

6,552 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd November 2006
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Probably worth giving the chaps at Munich Legends a ring. They've kitted out plenty of 'trackmeister' E30's

Buttmonkey Racer

453 posts

229 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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I wouldn't risk fitting a second hand or used one especially if you can't be sure of its history.

I fitted a Custom Cages cage in mine. Fully weld in with bars through to the front struts. I think its circa £590 supplied plus fitting. Alternatively try an OMP cage which is about £300 supplied plus fitting or finally if you can get through to the try Safety Devices which are about £400 plus fitting.

All can be checked out and bought through Demon Tweeks.

aasc

358 posts

239 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Eh? What's wrong with a 2nd hand cage? It's made of steel & has no moving parts & it would be pretty obvious if it's been in a crunch!

Next I'll be reading I shouldn't buy a 2nd hand car as it has used seatbelts & we all know how important that bit of safety kit is. rolleyes

Edited by aasc on Friday 3rd November 13:40

taffyracer

2,093 posts

249 months

Friday 3rd November 2006
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Custom cages do the best weld in IMO, also well priced,

bmgm3

10,480 posts

249 months

Saturday 4th November 2006
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www.etamotorsport.co.uk will build you a weld in cage to whatever spec and budget you want.

chaosss

415 posts

237 months

Sunday 5th November 2006
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You can get a 4.1 LSD which appeared on some E30 318is. I managed to track one down but they are rare. Not all Is's were fitted with them though.

Obviously custom gearing a diff is possible but £££'s

JonRB

75,739 posts

278 months

Sunday 5th November 2006
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aasc said:
Eh? What's wrong with a 2nd hand cage?

I can see where he's coming from. 2nd hand is of unknown provinence. Would you buy a 2nd hand crash helmet?

Surely a weld-in cage that has been welded, subjected to stresses and strains whilst being in the car originally fitted to, unwelded, and then re-welded in the new car is going to be less strong than a brand new one?

And with the kind of prices being quoted for a new one it's surely a no-brainer?

Buttmonkey Racer

453 posts

229 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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aasc said:
Eh? What's wrong with a 2nd hand cage? It's made of steel & has no moving parts & it would be pretty obvious if it's been in a crunch!

Next I'll be reading I shouldn't buy a 2nd hand car as it has used seatbelts & we all know how important that bit of safety kit is. rolleyes

Edited by aasc on Friday 3rd November 13:40


No it wouldn't be obvious that its been in a 'crunch'. Damage may not be evident to the eye. Remember its there to protect you. Cutting corners to save a few quid might cost you far more than that.Track car / racecar, why risk your life? And as you mention it, no I wouldn't use secondhand seatbelts / harnesses in a RACECAR if I didn't know their history.

me01mp

Original Poster:

74 posts

227 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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Hi folks,

Thanks for the input, fair point on the cage, for 600quid its not worth the risk, shiny spangly new one it shall be.. I'm still on the hunt for an LSD mind..

Cheers

me01mp

Original Poster:

74 posts

227 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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By the way..

will an E36 LSD fit th eE30 or not??

Buttmonkey Racer

453 posts

229 months

Monday 6th November 2006
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Not sure but you could call Quarry BMW Spares (0114 272 5108 ask for Lee or Leroy). They'll know and will also have one in stock no doubt

aasc

358 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Buttmonkey Racer said:
aasc said:
Eh? What's wrong with a 2nd hand cage? It's made of steel & has no moving parts & it would be pretty obvious if it's been in a crunch!

Next I'll be reading I shouldn't buy a 2nd hand car as it has used seatbelts & we all know how important that bit of safety kit is. rolleyes

Edited by aasc on Friday 3rd November 13:40


No it wouldn't be obvious that its been in a 'crunch'. Damage may not be evident to the eye. Remember its there to protect you. Cutting corners to save a few quid might cost you far more than that.Track car / racecar, why risk your life? And as you mention it, no I wouldn't use secondhand seatbelts / harnesses in a RACECAR if I didn't know their history.


All of that (& the other post) could be said for any used car - the body shell will also be subject to stresses & strains etc? This would also imply no market for used race cars. Personally I'd draw the line at used helmets, and possibly used harnesses (however once stretched the wear is fairly evident). However I can't afford a new GT3 but a used on which contains an equally used cage - worth replacing - I'd say no. In the same vein breaking up an ex-racer or track car & selling off the cage - is it that big a deal given the cost/risk ratio?

Buttmonkey Racer

453 posts

229 months

Wednesday 8th November 2006
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Without boring the ar*e off everyone, my point is that a new cage is going to cost a couple of hundred quid more than a used / second hand one to buy. Surely for that level of expenditure its better to go with something you know the history of especially when your personal safety is at risk.