Pirelli Jelly and The TC Question?
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Snakes alive!
Those P-Zeros didn't fancy a long term association with the old girl.
I doubt they've seen 6,000 miles and they are slicker than an OPC sales shark!
No fecklers stock the damn things by the looks so I'm whacking Contis back on for the next session which is probably not ideal.
Now then, traction control.
Having now consigned this infernal instrument of socialism to the dustbin of perpetual deactivation, I've been concerned that it is - as has been suggested* - not an entirely 'off' situation...
Recent moorland bombing sorties have allowed degrees of slip but still frequently, there's a sense of some shacklement still reigning things back from the gross charge effect and this is simply not on.
* Apparently, the good folks of Bruntingthorpe, themselves custodian of an E39 M5, reckoned that a 10 second hold completed the nanny shut down - is this true?
Ethelred of Macedonia.
Those P-Zeros didn't fancy a long term association with the old girl.
I doubt they've seen 6,000 miles and they are slicker than an OPC sales shark!
No fecklers stock the damn things by the looks so I'm whacking Contis back on for the next session which is probably not ideal.
Now then, traction control.
Having now consigned this infernal instrument of socialism to the dustbin of perpetual deactivation, I've been concerned that it is - as has been suggested* - not an entirely 'off' situation...
Recent moorland bombing sorties have allowed degrees of slip but still frequently, there's a sense of some shacklement still reigning things back from the gross charge effect and this is simply not on.
* Apparently, the good folks of Bruntingthorpe, themselves custodian of an E39 M5, reckoned that a 10 second hold completed the nanny shut down - is this true?
Ethelred of Macedonia.
Yeah, Pirelli's are good, but they last about 15 seconds. Given the choice I'd always go with Pilot Sports, alsomost as sticky and last several times longer. My bro got 30k miles out of his original set on his (Audi) TT.
Sounds like the system on your M5 is that same as my Z4. It's got three levels of meddling. When you turn the car on it's in "DSC" mode (Dynamic Stability Control), or "Full-Nanny" as I like to call it. This mode kills all the power to keep things ship-shape all of the time.
One press of the button puts it into "DTC" mode (Dynamic Traction Control, IIRC), which should be displayed in the instrument cluster. I understand that this allows a degree hooliganism but prevents front wheel lockups and other common maker-meeting events.
But if you hold the button down for a few seconds, a different icon is displayed in the instrument cluster, which is a yellow warning triangle containing an exclaimation mark and surrounded by a circular arrow, which I believe means that it's fully off.
Sounds like the system on your M5 is that same as my Z4. It's got three levels of meddling. When you turn the car on it's in "DSC" mode (Dynamic Stability Control), or "Full-Nanny" as I like to call it. This mode kills all the power to keep things ship-shape all of the time.
One press of the button puts it into "DTC" mode (Dynamic Traction Control, IIRC), which should be displayed in the instrument cluster. I understand that this allows a degree hooliganism but prevents front wheel lockups and other common maker-meeting events.
But if you hold the button down for a few seconds, a different icon is displayed in the instrument cluster, which is a yellow warning triangle containing an exclaimation mark and surrounded by a circular arrow, which I believe means that it's fully off.
Andrew D said:
But if you hold the button down for a few seconds, a different icon is displayed in the instrument cluster, which is a yellow warning triangle containing an exclaimation mark and surrounded by a circular arrow, which I believe means that it's fully off.
Andrew, I wonder because I get this symbol after one lowly press of said button: so is that it?
If that comes straight on then it's probably a one-level system; on or off.
Apparently ABS remains active regardless of how much button pressing goes on in the cockpit, so that might be what's reining it in.
It was a similar case on my old Smart Roadster. The "Deactivate Stability Control" button was pretty much meaningless. It supposedly loosened the computer's control of the rear wheels, but the fronts remained under it's dominion. But on or off, the car was still tail-happy and borderline lethal on anything but bone-dry roads!
Apparently ABS remains active regardless of how much button pressing goes on in the cockpit, so that might be what's reining it in.
It was a similar case on my old Smart Roadster. The "Deactivate Stability Control" button was pretty much meaningless. It supposedly loosened the computer's control of the rear wheels, but the fronts remained under it's dominion. But on or off, the car was still tail-happy and borderline lethal on anything but bone-dry roads!
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