Z4 Coupe - SE or Sport??

Z4 Coupe - SE or Sport??

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ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Monday 10th July 2006
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A dilemma!

And yes, I know that many might say I should be aiming higher, for the Z4M. But I'm not, for reasons that will become apparent (and because the £10k difference is a lot of money).

Anyway, back to the dilemma. A few of the reviews I've read say the suspension on the Sport (and the M) is uncomfortably hard over British roads and long distances. I'm after a car I can use to take the better half away for the weekend, or drive down to the south of France in relative comfort. And I live in London, with all the accompanying pot-holes and speed bumps. I have no plans to take the car on track days, so don't really NEED the benefits of Sport suspension. All of which perhaps suggests the SE - and the reviews seem to conclude the SE is perfectly well set up to handle its 265bhp for "enthusiastic" road use. But I rather like the wheels / seats / steering wheel etc that come as standard on the Sport. And the Sport might have better residuals.

I am, of course, planning to test drive both the Sport and the SE. But I'm fully aware that test-driving a car (excitement, adreneline etc) and living with it for the next 3 years are very different. So... I'd be very grateful for any views, especially from z4 roadster or 330Ci Sport owners, on whether the Sport suspension set-up really is as unforgiving in the long term as some of the reviews suggest.

Apologies if this all sounds a bit "wussy", but please bear in mind I'm currently the proud owner of a 635csi - which is a bit like driving a fast arm chair.

Many thanks in anticipation!

Steve

pk328

576 posts

251 months

Monday 10th July 2006
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I'd be tempted to go SE. M-suspension and run-flats sound like a bone-jarring combination.

MD San

62 posts

220 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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I have an SE Z4 roadster and find the suspension set up fine for fast road driving. I have the 18" alloys too and find the ride acceptably comfortable. The car only seems to struggle when being driven fast on really bumpy B-roads. It can feel like it is literally going to bounce off the road! However, I suspect the sport may be even worse in this respect? For the kind of life it sounds like your Z4 will have i'd recommend going for SE.

Sortie 10

729 posts

258 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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I have a Mk1 SE on 18" alloys and M Sport suspension. The ride is harsh, and dont forget on a more practical level you need to be VERY careful parking nose-on to a kerb, or approaching ramps (entering car parks, boarding a ferry etc).
Aesthetically however, the lowered suspension and big wheels fill the arches well and improve the looks. If I had the choice (I didn't - mine was secondhand), I'd take the big wheels/tyres and forget the M-Sport suspension.

ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Thank you all for the helpful comments. I think you're right - SE spec'd up to include most of the Sport bits I wanted - especially those rather splendid M Sport seats. Now for the test drive! I haven't felt this excited since Dad took me to Halfords to choose a mountain bike 20 years ago...

pk328

576 posts

251 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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Any idea when they will be available to test drive? I went to my local dealer last Saturday and they couldn't tell me when they are going to have one in.

ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Tuesday 11th July 2006
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I've spoken to three London dealerships over the last week or so - they're all expecting to have cars in the showrooms from tomorrow/Thursday and "launch party" events over the next week or so.

ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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On the off chance that anyone is interested, I got to testdrive a 3.0si Sport at the weekend. FANTASTIC!! Incredible engine and a wonderful sound. And what a beautiful car. The order has gone in and delivery is due for early October.

The Sport suspension was a touch too hard for my liking, so I've gone for the SE spec, but with 18 inch wheels and the "M" seats.

As the boot isn't as big as the old 6 series (and, of course, no back seats) we've spent the last couple of days trying to work out what we'll leave behind so that we can take it down to Le Mans next year. Is that a bit sad?

How the heck I'm supposed to wait until October I really don't know.

Now... anyone want a 635csi?? Looks like it'll be going in the classifieds in the next couple of weeks, just as soon as I find time to wash it and take some photos.

Many thanks again to pk, MD San and Sortie 10 for the helpful comments.

Steve

trackdemon

12,266 posts

267 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Nice one. Our 3.0i Sport (I know ) arrives early/mid August, but then the order was placed last November What colour did you go for?

ccroaker

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220 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Black. Sorry..."Black Sapphire"! With red leather. What about yours?

And I must say - I'm impressed at your commitment and foresight, ordering in Nov!

I'm wondering whether I can legitimately tour BMW dealerships, arranging testdrives at each one, just to feed the craving until October....

trackdemon

12,266 posts

267 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Black Sapphire also, chickened out of red after seeing it on a roadster & went for black with brushed aluminium. Predictable & safe but very cool. Saw Black ZCoupe in Autocar a few weeks back - looked bloody brilliant!!

pk328

576 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th July 2006
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Superb! I'm seriously tempted to get one too, once I've sorted my house move, although there's also a little voice that keeps whispering "350Z" into my ear...

Robertb

1,923 posts

244 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Make sure yours will have the latest 3l engine and DSC+ which sounds very impressive. I would assume it will, but worth checking...

trackdemon

12,266 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Z Coupe's only come with either the latest silky smooth 3.0l 265bhp engine, or the 3.2 / 340bhp M unit

pete

1,598 posts

290 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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I can testify to the general loveliness of the new 3 litre engine. I have it in my 130i and it's amazingly smooth and willing to rev. Gets almost 30mpg pootling around town too!

ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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The guy who sold me mine on Saturday was telling me they've put the same 3.0l engine in a 1 series, the result being an absolutely bonkers hot hatch (though admittedly not as bonkers as the Hartge H1).

PK - ignore that little Japanese voice!

trackdemon

12,266 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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ccroaker said:
The guy who sold me mine on Saturday was telling me they've put the same 3.0l engine in a 1 series, the result being an absolutely bonkers hot hatch (though admittedly not as bonkers as the Hartge H1).

PK - ignore that little Japanese voice!


So you have a Z Coupe now? Is that what you mean?

ccroaker

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6,313 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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No - sorry - I wish!!

What I meant was, I placed the order on Saturday - so it kind of feels like its mine. The warm glow and excitement of knowing there's a job sheet with my name on it...

I've been told to expect delivery at the start of October.

trackdemon

12,266 posts

267 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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A-ha!! Ours is 'on the boat now' So early August looks good!!!

ghiblicup

605 posts

220 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Mines on the boat with yours Mr.Demon!
You gonna get it Aug or wait till 1st sept?