ssg gear box out off timming
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Hi,
I had a 325 a couple of years back with the ssg box, and had the same problems that you are having. Took it to the dealer and specialist etc and they said its just the way the gearbox works!!!!
ssg is terrible in my opinion, and is the reason I sold the car on unfortunately its not the best for resale either.
Can be such fun at times but around town its appalling.
330 soundsawesome though, does clusport give you sports exhaust??
JTT
I had a 325 a couple of years back with the ssg box, and had the same problems that you are having. Took it to the dealer and specialist etc and they said its just the way the gearbox works!!!!
ssg is terrible in my opinion, and is the reason I sold the car on unfortunately its not the best for resale either.
Can be such fun at times but around town its appalling.
330 soundsawesome though, does clusport give you sports exhaust??
JTT
Sometimes mine is a bit jerky... apols if I'm teaching grandma to suck eggs, but treat it as a clutchless manual not an auto, i.e lift the throttle just after you've flipped the paddle between changes and it smooths out alot.
The auto mode is a nightmare and I hardly ever use it.
The only time mine gets confused is sometimes at roundabouts- it seems to decide to change down for you just as you try to nip out, usually in front of a 38 tonner!
Also worth clicking it down into 1st at junctions when you crawl up to them- unless pulling from a stop it seems to prefer pulling away in second left to itself which must be hard on the clutch.
The Clubsport has less soundproofing, some natty split-rim wheels, a shorter gearknob (not SSG of course), some special alu-cube trim, big rear spoiler and front splitters.
The auto mode is a nightmare and I hardly ever use it.
The only time mine gets confused is sometimes at roundabouts- it seems to decide to change down for you just as you try to nip out, usually in front of a 38 tonner!
Also worth clicking it down into 1st at junctions when you crawl up to them- unless pulling from a stop it seems to prefer pulling away in second left to itself which must be hard on the clutch.
The Clubsport has less soundproofing, some natty split-rim wheels, a shorter gearknob (not SSG of course), some special alu-cube trim, big rear spoiler and front splitters.
I generally find the ssg box smooth now I've got the hang of it. I've never had the timing altered by the dealer.
It has an advantage over the steptronic in as much as it doesn't kill the fuel economy, and gives a direct feeling drive without the torque converter slur. I would concur that the SSG is diabolical in auto mode and I reckon pointless- its hardly much effort to click the paddle...
I would prefer to retain total control over the gear selection, rather than it doing half a job, i.e. clicking into 4-3-2 by itself as you slow down markedly, but then only going into 1st when you are virtually stationary, then usually slipping the clutch in 2nd when you pull away.
It does however allow easy clutch-free use in traffic jams.
It isn't as sophisticated as the newer VW/Audi boxes, but there is a challenge to getting the shifts just right, especially under full power.
I also like the high pitched whirr of the hydraulic gearbox pump when you unlock the car... gives a "ready for business" sort of feel!
What I have found is that the box recognizes when you have your foot down hard, and bangs a change through v quickly and sharply. If you lift a bit fractionally after you click the paddle, the change is a bit slower but much smoother. Then wait for the clutch to re-engage before flooring it again. Sort of like a manual really...
It has an advantage over the steptronic in as much as it doesn't kill the fuel economy, and gives a direct feeling drive without the torque converter slur. I would concur that the SSG is diabolical in auto mode and I reckon pointless- its hardly much effort to click the paddle...
I would prefer to retain total control over the gear selection, rather than it doing half a job, i.e. clicking into 4-3-2 by itself as you slow down markedly, but then only going into 1st when you are virtually stationary, then usually slipping the clutch in 2nd when you pull away.
It does however allow easy clutch-free use in traffic jams.
It isn't as sophisticated as the newer VW/Audi boxes, but there is a challenge to getting the shifts just right, especially under full power.
I also like the high pitched whirr of the hydraulic gearbox pump when you unlock the car... gives a "ready for business" sort of feel!
What I have found is that the box recognizes when you have your foot down hard, and bangs a change through v quickly and sharply. If you lift a bit fractionally after you click the paddle, the change is a bit slower but much smoother. Then wait for the clutch to re-engage before flooring it again. Sort of like a manual really...
I've found H-SMG (the new box for the Z4) very good indeed, even in auto mode.
Having owned a Smart Roadster last, I know how bad a dodgy semi-manual can be, but the Z4's is really competent. I think the key is the sport mode button, which invokes shorter shift times when engaged but allows a smoother change in normal running.
In (non-sport mode) automatic the changes are seemless at low to medium throttle levels, and are only noticeable if you're realy pressing on, and still not jerky. Manual changes are similar, but you need to lift a little on medium to high throttle. The only downside is that it can engage full drive a little early when you pull away in first (rather than slipping the clutch), which can cause a bit of driveline shunt as the engine speed varies.
In sport mode the changes become a lot more aggressive, which is brilliant! The manual changes range from slightly jerky if you're just cruising along normally, to totally brutal if you've got the loud pedal floored.
To sum it up I think it's the best balance you can expect. It isn't as smooth as an auto is all of the time, but then it's doesn't loose any performance relative to the manual.
Having owned a Smart Roadster last, I know how bad a dodgy semi-manual can be, but the Z4's is really competent. I think the key is the sport mode button, which invokes shorter shift times when engaged but allows a smoother change in normal running.
In (non-sport mode) automatic the changes are seemless at low to medium throttle levels, and are only noticeable if you're realy pressing on, and still not jerky. Manual changes are similar, but you need to lift a little on medium to high throttle. The only downside is that it can engage full drive a little early when you pull away in first (rather than slipping the clutch), which can cause a bit of driveline shunt as the engine speed varies.
In sport mode the changes become a lot more aggressive, which is brilliant! The manual changes range from slightly jerky if you're just cruising along normally, to totally brutal if you've got the loud pedal floored.
To sum it up I think it's the best balance you can expect. It isn't as smooth as an auto is all of the time, but then it's doesn't loose any performance relative to the manual.
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