Will fitting a square wheel setup to an M140i cause issues??

Will fitting a square wheel setup to an M140i cause issues??

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FakeCarGuy

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105 posts

83 months

Yesterday (12:50)
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Because the front and rear have different rolling diameters, I’ve been advised that fitting a square setup will throw-off the car’s calculations and computers and can hamper the driving dynamics of the car, with the traction/stability control becoming intrusive and confused.

However, is there actually any truth to this?

Reason I ask is because i’m in the market for a 340i m sport shadow edition - but they’re rare as fk - and i’m really struggling to find one that I like in my price range - so now i’m starting to look at the m140i now - but i’m only really interested if I can rock a square tyre setup.

ARHarh

4,727 posts

122 months

Yesterday (13:18)
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No idea, But being old I do remember the development of the wheel, and the team soon gave up on the square one rofl

Pica-Pica

15,195 posts

99 months

Yesterday (13:45)
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ARHarh said:
No idea, But being old I do remember the development of the wheel, and the team soon gave up on the square one rofl
To be expected. Lazy Sunday afternoon?

thebraketester

15,011 posts

153 months

Yesterday (14:04)
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FakeCarGuy said:
but i m only really interested if I can rock a square tyre setup.
Why?

danb79

11,617 posts

87 months

Yesterday (14:16)
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FakeCarGuy said:
Because the front and rear have different rolling diameters, I ve been advised that fitting a square setup will throw-off the car s calculations and computers and can hamper the driving dynamics of the car, with the traction/stability control becoming intrusive and confused.

However, is there actually any truth to this?

Reason I ask is because i m in the market for a 340i m sport shadow edition - but they re rare as fk - and i m really struggling to find one that I like in my price range - so now i m starting to look at the m140i now - but i m only really interested if I can rock a square tyre setup.
Utter bks

I run a square set up on my E81 130i and on my F31 touring - both should have staggered set ups; but prefer square as I find it better for handing, ride etc

Doesn’t matter if it s RWD or xDrive - as long as the tyres are the correct sizes, you’ll have zero issues

Plus you tend to find the dedicated winter wheels for the car(s) will always be a square set up too

Edited by danb79 on Sunday 6th July 16:28

MitchT

16,728 posts

224 months

Yesterday (14:29)
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Tens (if not hundreds) of millions spent on R&D to design a car when all they had to do was ask some randoms on the internet what the optimum setup would be! banghead

bigdom

2,192 posts

160 months

FakeCarGuy said:
Because the front and rear have different rolling diameters, I ve been advised that fitting a square setup will throw-off the car s calculations and computers and can hamper the driving dynamics of the car, with the traction/stability control becoming intrusive and confused.

However, is there actually any truth to this?

Reason I ask is because i m in the market for a 340i m sport shadow edition - but they re rare as fk - and i m really struggling to find one that I like in my price range - so now i m starting to look at the m140i now - but i m only really interested if I can rock a square tyre setup.
Of course you can. Just seems a odd decision to give the car less rubber to put the power down, especially as you've mentioned on other threads of mapping a car to >400bhp and adding birds suspension/quaife diff.

danb79

11,617 posts

87 months

bigdom said:
FakeCarGuy said:
Because the front and rear have different rolling diameters, I ve been advised that fitting a square setup will throw-off the car s calculations and computers and can hamper the driving dynamics of the car, with the traction/stability control becoming intrusive and confused.

However, is there actually any truth to this?

Reason I ask is because i m in the market for a 340i m sport shadow edition - but they re rare as fk - and i m really struggling to find one that I like in my price range - so now i m starting to look at the m140i now - but i m only really interested if I can rock a square tyre setup.
Of course you can. Just seems a odd decision to give the car less rubber to put the power down, especially as you've mentioned on other threads of mapping a car to >400bhp and adding birds suspension/quaife diff.
The lads that have 135i and 140i BMWs that my pals look after all have square set ups and they track their cars hard… Yes they’re aftermarket Apex and Protrack wheels; but all the same size all round and they never have any issues…

InitialDave

13,200 posts

134 months

FakeCarGuy said:
Because the front and rear have different rolling diameters,
They shouldn't?

My Z4 has a staggered fitment, and the wider rears are lower profile to compensate. The difference is 0.4%, so in practical terms they're identical.