840d tyres

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thebullettrain

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1,060 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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The car is a 840d.

Two MOT advisories being a bulge in a rear tyre and a front tyre with a low thread.

Does this mean that I need to replace all four (having to replace both axels with it being a 4 x 4)?

I’ve currently Bridgestone Potenza runflats, any suggestions on whether to stick or switch?

I may update this if any questions come in.

danb79

10,913 posts

84 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Plenty of threads re RFTs vs non-RFTs

Go for whichever suits you best; but yes, replace all 4

Summit_Detailing

2,089 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Yes all 4.

Having had a BMW with runflats I'd be inclined to swap to non RFT and put a can of goo in the boot, mainly for the additional ride comfort but also less tyre noise if my experience with Bridgestone is anything to go by.

Cheers.

E-bmw

10,580 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Personally, I think Potenzas are one of the worst "Premium" tyres I have ever had the misfortune to have on a car, in run-flat guise they were even worse.

I would change all 4 on sight never mind what condition they are in.

Even when they were first made they were "middle of the road" at best & tyre technology has come on a long way since then.

The only caveat to the above opinion being that apparently the new "Potenza Sport" are pretty good, but you don't say that it is these.

Edited by E-bmw on Wednesday 11th December 07:53

danb79

10,913 posts

84 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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E-bmw said:
Personally, I think Potenzas are one of the worst "Premium" tyres I have ever had the misfortune to have on a car, in run-flat guise they were even worse.

I would change all 4 on sight never mind what condition they are in.

Even when they were first made they were "middle of the road" at best & tyre technology has come on a long way since then.

The only caveat to the above opinion being that apparently the new "Potenza Sport" are pretty good, but you don't say that it is these.

Edited by E-bmw on Wednesday 11th December 07:53
Agree; they were what were on the 20" alloys on my previous F01 and they were dreadful

Dropped to 19s, non RFT Falken FK510s and they were superb

The Gauge

4,200 posts

25 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Does the X-Drive system require both tyres on same axel to be changed even if only one tyre is worn/punctured?

Pica-Pica

14,915 posts

96 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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The Gauge said:
Does the X-Drive system require both tyres on same axel to be changed even if only one tyre is worn/punctured?
I have never changed both to keep the tread depths exactly the same across axle. I don’t know the official line, if there is one.

thebullettrain

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Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Pica-Pica said:
The Gauge said:
Does the X-Drive system require both tyres on same axel to be changed even if only one tyre is worn/punctured?
I have never changed both to keep the tread depths exactly the same across axle. I don’t know the official line, if there is one.
Short answer is yes, or can cause transfer case issues.

I’m looking to move from the Bridgestone Potenzas to Pirelli P Zeros. Im taking to my local Indy and I’ll see what he says.

thebullettrain

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251 months

Wednesday 11th December 2024
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Pica-Pica said:
The Gauge said:
Does the X-Drive system require both tyres on same axel to be changed even if only one tyre is worn/punctured?
I have never changed both to keep the tread depths exactly the same across axle. I don’t know the official line, if there is one.
Short answer is yes, or can cause transfer case issues.

I’m looking to move from the Bridgestone Potenzas to Pirelli P Zeros. Im taking to my local Indy and I’ll see what he says.

rottenegg

942 posts

75 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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If you want Runflat, swap em' out for Pilot Sport 4 Zero pressure.

If you want non-run flat, swap em' out for Conti Sport Contact 7.

They are currently the best options in each tyre type.

I've used them both and they are light years better than the crap BMW fit as OE standard equipment. The Bridgestones in particular are famous for bulging and premature outer tread block wear.

Wills2

25,299 posts

187 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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Just get rid of the Potenzas they are garbage, the star marked Pirelli PZ4 RFT I had on my 730d were very good and not crazy on the price.


thebullettrain

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251 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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I’ve replaced them today with Goodyear Eagle F1 runtlats. I’ll go for a drive in a bit and get a feel.

Pica-Pica

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96 months

Saturday 14th December 2024
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thebullettrain said:
Pica-Pica said:
The Gauge said:
Does the X-Drive system require both tyres on same axel to be changed even if only one tyre is worn/punctured?
I have never changed both to keep the tread depths exactly the same across axle. I don’t know the official line, if there is one.
Short answer is yes, or can cause transfer case issues.

I’m looking to move from the Bridgestone Potenzas to Pirelli P Zeros. Im taking to my local Indy and I’ll see what he says.
If the short answer is yes, then the handbook (latest, and on-line) does not say this - despite it being particular about things like not using silicone-containing washer fluid, and not mixing washer fluid.

thebullettrain

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Sunday 15th December 2024
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Oh. I was told yes, but you have a link to the online version please?

Wills2

25,299 posts

187 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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This issue comes up frequently a quick google will give you loads of threads on Bimmerpost regarding the issue (there's an awful lot more knowledge on that forum than this)

BMW published a TIS regarding the changing of tyres on xdrive cars and recommended no more than a 2mm difference as below, this info was mirrored by my service dept on the occasions that I had to change a single tyre on some of the xdrive BMWs that I've had namely a 335d and 740d, thankfully they were within the tolerance.



You can do what you like and believe what you like, but that's what BMW say.


Pica-Pica

14,915 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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Wills2 said:
This issue comes up frequently a quick google will give you loads of threads on Bimmerpost regarding the issue (there's an awful lot more knowledge on that forum than this)

BMW published a TIS regarding the changing of tyres on xdrive cars and recommended no more than a 2mm difference as below, this info was mirrored by my service dept on the occasions that I had to change a single tyre on some of the xdrive BMWs that I've had namely a 335d and 740d, thankfully they were within the tolerance.



You can do what you like and believe what you like, but that's what BMW say.
But they don’t put it in the handbook, or in the on-line handbook. Why is that do you think?


Wills2

25,299 posts

187 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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Pica-Pica said:
But they don’t put it in the handbook, or in the on-line handbook. Why is that do you think?
It's all a massive conspiracy to force you to ask obtuse questions of strangers.




Pica-Pica

14,915 posts

96 months

Sunday 15th December 2024
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Wills2 said:
Pica-Pica said:
But they don’t put it in the handbook, or in the on-line handbook. Why is that do you think?
It's all a massive conspiracy to force you to ask obtuse questions of strangers.
Indeed. In warranty and handbook we trust.

Pyrolysis

333 posts

129 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Not an 8, I have a 640d GC but I got rid of the run flats and have Michelin PS4s all round. Grip and ride is far far superior to the Potenza RF's that BMW like to fit. Huge upgrade that's well worth it in my opinion.

The Gauge

4,200 posts

25 months

Thursday 26th December 2024
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Wills2 said:
It mentions to fit 'tyres approved by BMW', are the makes/models of approved tyres listed anywhere?