e46 cooling system

e46 cooling system

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70proof

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160 months

Tuesday 13th August
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my son has bought a 320ci 2.2 LCI, the water pump needs changing, working but the bearing is a bit rattly

the expansion tank is original part, still got original label on it, tbf the hoses look great, car has 100k and was garage kept

should i replace the tank as youtube mechanics suggest, and are parts off ebay okay, or should i get oem

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Tuesday 13th August
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70proof said:
my son has bought a 320ci 2.2 LCI, the water pump needs changing, working but the bearing is a bit rattly

the expansion tank is original part, still got original label on it, tbf the hoses look great, car has 100k and was garage kept

should i replace the tank as youtube mechanics suggest, and are parts off ebay okay, or should i get oem
The M54 is a great engine; cooling system is generally chocolate though unless well looked after. I'd deffo change the header tank if you can (Febi, Mahle etc - stick with OE / OEM brands)

Water pump I'd go either Meyle or Mahle again; stat go for Walher if you can. Id change the top/bottom hoses for peace of mind too, may as well whilst it's all out, Febi again or Gates etc

C3BMW and BMWmotormec will have all the parts you need

Comma G48 for the coolant smile

Every E39 530i I had with the M54; first thing I did was overhaul the cooling system - never let me down once that was done


70proof

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6,073 posts

160 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Many thanks

Mr Tidy

23,817 posts

132 months

Tuesday 13th August
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When I bought my E46 325ti it had done 80K, and within a couple of thousand miles the radiator started leaking as it was bent like a banana at the bottom. So I had the whole system refreshed and had no more cooling issues.

So it would be worth checking the radiator while you're at it.

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Tuesday 13th August
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Mr Tidy said:
When I bought my E46 325ti it had done 80K, and within a couple of thousand miles the radiator started leaking as it was bent like a banana at the bottom. So I had the whole system refreshed and had no more cooling issues.

So it would be worth checking the radiator while you're at it.
Good call. Behr is OEM but Nissens are solid also

70proof

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6,073 posts

160 months

Wednesday 14th August
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which stat do you change or is it the housing one changes, thanks

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Wednesday 14th August
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70proof said:
which stat do you change or is it the housing one changes, thanks
It's one piece; this is the Wahler one as recommended

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273373387540?_nkw=11530...

70proof

Original Poster:

6,073 posts

160 months

Wednesday 14th August
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top man, thanks

Ryyy

1,654 posts

40 months

Wednesday 14th August
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danb79 said:
The M54 is a great engine; cooling system is generally chocolate though unless well looked after. I'd deffo change the header tank if you can (Febi, Mahle etc - stick with OE / OEM brands)

Water pump I'd go either Meyle or Mahle again; stat go for Walher if you can. Id change the top/bottom hoses for peace of mind too, may as well whilst it's all out, Febi again or Gates etc

C3BMW and BMWmotormec will have all the parts you need

Comma G48 for the coolant smile

Every E39 530i I had with the M54; first thing I did was overhaul the cooling system - never let me down once that was done
Out of pure curiosity of loving the e46, how much is said overhaul of the cooling system? If it was the m54 of course smile just incase i do ever bit the bullet but theres a list of cars and my never ending battle of going for it and not going for it in my head hehe

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Wednesday 14th August
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Ryyy said:
danb79 said:
The M54 is a great engine; cooling system is generally chocolate though unless well looked after. I'd deffo change the header tank if you can (Febi, Mahle etc - stick with OE / OEM brands)

Water pump I'd go either Meyle or Mahle again; stat go for Walher if you can. Id change the top/bottom hoses for peace of mind too, may as well whilst it's all out, Febi again or Gates etc

C3BMW and BMWmotormec will have all the parts you need

Comma G48 for the coolant smile

Every E39 530i I had with the M54; first thing I did was overhaul the cooling system - never let me down once that was done
Out of pure curiosity of loving the e46, how much is said overhaul of the cooling system? If it was the m54 of course smile just incase i do ever bit the bullet but theres a list of cars and my never ending battle of going for it and not going for it in my head hehe
DIY, c£150 in parts and coolant exc. the rad. If you need the rad, they're c£150 IIRC, so that on top

If being done by an indy - probably a good 3 hours labour as well

The issue is; where do you stop

Personally I'm one of those that think whilst it's all apart, may as well do the belts, pulleys, viscous clutch, oil filter housing gasket etc etc hehe

Edited by danb79 on Wednesday 14th August 20:56

Ryyy

1,654 posts

40 months

Wednesday 14th August
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danb79 said:
DIY, c£150 in parts and coolant exc. the rad. If you need the rad, they're c£150 IIRC, so that on top

If being done by an indy - probably a good 3 hours labour as well

The issue is; where do you stop

Personally I'm one of those that think whilst it's all apart, may as well do the belts, pulleys, viscous clutch, oil filter housing gasket etc etc hehe

Edited by danb79 on Wednesday 14th August 20:56
Thankyou for that,Thats a lot less than i inticipated yikes i thought old german metal was meant to be expensive? scratchchin

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Thursday 15th August
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Ryyy said:
danb79 said:
DIY, c£150 in parts and coolant exc. the rad. If you need the rad, they're c£150 IIRC, so that on top

If being done by an indy - probably a good 3 hours labour as well

The issue is; where do you stop

Personally I'm one of those that think whilst it's all apart, may as well do the belts, pulleys, viscous clutch, oil filter housing gasket etc etc hehe

Edited by danb79 on Wednesday 14th August 20:56
Thankyou for that,Thats a lot less than i inticipated yikes i thought old german metal was meant to be expensive? scratchchin
The parts aren't that expensive bar the rad (which again isn't that expensive)

Wahler/Febi Stat c£40, Meyle/Febi water pump c£35, Febi top/bottom hoses c£40, Cooma G48 coolant & deionised water c£30

70proof

Original Poster:

6,073 posts

160 months

Thursday 15th August
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Ryyy said:
Out of pure curiosity of loving the e46, how much is said overhaul of the cooling system? If it was the m54 of course smile just incase i do ever bit the bullet but theres a list of cars and my never ending battle of going for it and not going for it in my head hehe
meyle pump 27
meyle expansion tank 31
whler stat 40
o ring set 2

tbh watching repair guides on youtube can be done by self easily

70proof

Original Poster:

6,073 posts

160 months

Sunday 18th August
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parts all off ebay sellers are now here, look genuine and top quality, arrived within 48 hours too

danb79

9,375 posts

77 months

Sunday 18th August
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70proof said:
parts all off ebay sellers are now here, look genuine and top quality, arrived within 48 hours too
Which seller(s) did you use?

Mr Tidy

23,817 posts

132 months

Sunday 18th August
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Ryyy said:
Out of pure curiosity of loving the e46, how much is said overhaul of the cooling system? If it was the m54 of course smile just incase i do ever bit the bullet but theres a list of cars and my never ending battle of going for it and not going for it in my head hehe
My BMW Indy charged me £469.47 in August 2015 to supply and fit a new radiator, cap, thermostat, expansion tank, alternator belt and coolant temperature sensor.

Ryyy

1,654 posts

40 months

Sunday 18th August
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These prices really arent bad, i reckon ill be over that on mot day for the insignia paperbag

70proof

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6,073 posts

160 months

Monday 19th August
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danb79 said:
Which seller(s) did you use?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273373387540

the thermostat from motormec who have their own website now

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395172254871
waterpump

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162550247704
expansion tank