BMW main dealer - incorrect discrepancy on MOT

BMW main dealer - incorrect discrepancy on MOT

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alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Took my F10 M5 for an MOT at a BMW main dealer last September, it passed but with a discrepancy, they said the brake lines on both front brakes had corrosion on them, fair enough, the car was close to a service so I phoned the dealer up and got a quote to fix the brake lines and they said £275 inc VAT, also fair enough, was expecting a lot more. Car went in for the service yesterday, and when I went to pick it up the guy at the service desk said upon inspection there was nothing wrong at all with the brake lines and they'd got the head of the MOT dept to confirm this. I said no problem just remove the discrepancy from the MOT to which he replied they were unable to do!!!
So I went into a bit of a rant, I'm planning on selling the car in the summer and it's going to have this discrepancy on it which I can't prove was fixed. The guy at the desk became all smug, just shrugged his shoulders and said (while smiling) there was nothing he could do, not even an apology!!
I could get another MOT, but as a mate told me, it looks a bit suss having 2 MOT's in 6 months. So anybody got any thoughts on my next action cause I'm really p***ed off about it, made worse by the smug little git behind the desk!!

bmwmike

7,370 posts

115 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Sounds about right for a BMW dealer to be fair, apart from the £275 bit.

Maybe get them to put something in writing that you could include in your service history?

Personally I'd not worry too much, by next MOT it'll be gone anyway.

Swervin_Mervin

4,596 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th April
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I've a mileage discrepancy on my vehicle's history, as a result of an MOT tester's typo one year, so the mileage jumps 20k and then drops back down the year after. There's very little you can do about things like that unless you spot them at the time and have the evidence to put to the DVLA. Sadly I don't have any evidence so have to just suck it up.

In your case, however, they definitely can do something about it, they just don't want to be arsed. All it would take is a simple bit of correspondence on headed communication to the DVLA.

Collectingbrass

2,386 posts

202 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Presumably they've charged for inspection and the service invoice says no further action required?

The other alternative is to find an an indie to do a presale service and get them to record that the MOT Advisory has been checked and addressed.

mmm-five

11,431 posts

291 months

Wednesday 10th April
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Do you mean an 'advisory'?

If so, almost every car will have had the same advisory where the brake lines are exposed. All the MOT tester can do is note that they look corroded...which they will do due to surface corrosion, but they can't tell how deep it is (unless it's leaking, and then it will be a fail).

But £275 seems very cheap for a dealer to replace brake lines...that's only about an hour's labour isn't it wink

Maybe they were offering to scrub them clean and coat them with dirty oil?

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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bmwmike said:
Sounds about right for a BMW dealer to be fair, apart from the £275 bit.

Maybe get them to put something in writing that you could include in your service history?

Personally I'd not worry too much, by next MOT it'll be gone anyway.
I asked the smug git to put everything he told me down in an email so I could show a prospective buyer, haven't got it yet, so I'll be chasing him up today

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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bmwmike said:
Sounds about right for a BMW dealer to be fair, apart from the £275 bit.

Maybe get them to put something in writing that you could include in your service history?

Personally I'd not worry too much, by next MOT it'll be gone anyway.
Yeah I was surprised by the £275, expected over £1000, that's why I told them to do it rather than take it to an indie

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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Swervin_Mervin said:
I've a mileage discrepancy on my vehicle's history, as a result of an MOT tester's typo one year, so the mileage jumps 20k and then drops back down the year after. There's very little you can do about things like that unless you spot them at the time and have the evidence to put to the DVLA. Sadly I don't have any evidence so have to just suck it up.

In your case, however, they definitely can do something about it, they just don't want to be arsed. All it would take is a simple bit of correspondence on headed communication to the DVLA.
Once I get an email from them explaining their f**k up I'm going to take the matter further up the food chain, Inchscape are the franchise holder

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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mmm-five said:
Do you mean an 'advisory'?

If so, almost every car will have had the same advisory where the brake lines are exposed. All the MOT tester can do is note that they look corroded...which they will do due to surface corrosion, but they can't tell how deep it is (unless it's leaking, and then it will be a fail).

But £275 seems very cheap for a dealer to replace brake lines...that's only about an hour's labour isn't it wink

Maybe they were offering to scrub them clean and coat them with dirty oil?
Sorry, yes advisory, don't know what I was thinking there

ConnectionError

1,942 posts

76 months

Thursday 11th April
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Better to call the Daily Mail

You might get an article with a compo face photo,


eliot

11,726 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th April
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alidude said:
Took my F10 M5 for an MOT at a BMW main dealer last September,
See there's your problem - it's just an open invite to find issues that they can easily and profitably repair.

E-bmw

9,963 posts

159 months

Thursday 11th April
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alidude said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
I've a mileage discrepancy on my vehicle's history, as a result of an MOT tester's typo one year, so the mileage jumps 20k and then drops back down the year after. There's very little you can do about things like that unless you spot them at the time and have the evidence to put to the DVLA. Sadly I don't have any evidence so have to just suck it up.

In your case, however, they definitely can do something about it, they just don't want to be arsed. All it would take is a simple bit of correspondence on headed communication to the DVLA.
Once I get an email from them explaining their f**k up I'm going to take the matter further up the food chain, Inchscape are the franchise holder
Unfortunately the answer will be the same as it is not possible for them to remove data from DVLA database once input via the MOT system.

Sheepshanks

34,951 posts

126 months

Thursday 11th April
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alidude said:
I said no problem just remove the discrepancy from the MOT...
Brilliant. smile

They probably quoted you the wrong price to replace them and it was easier to tell you they were OK than get into an argument about the price - why else would the dealer turn the work down? Having said that, I suppose servicing and pads and discs is way more profitable then messing around with brake pipes, corroded fittings etc.

sortedcossie

703 posts

135 months

Thursday 11th April
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Sadly I don't think you'll get that changed. best you can hope for is a letter or email from the tester/dealer stating it was an error.

stevemcs

8,986 posts

100 months

Thursday 11th April
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The only way to remove it is to have it tested again and prey they don't pick something else up. Was it actualy brake pipes or the rubber hoses with rusty ferrules ?

Dazdot

166 posts

40 months

Thursday 11th April
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Get the dealer to carry out a retest (FOC) showing no advisories, then tell prospective buyers the truth.

ConnectionError

1,942 posts

76 months

Thursday 11th April
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Dazdot said:
Get the dealer to carry out a retest (FOC) showing no advisories, then tell prospective buyers the truth.
And watch them find another advisory for something else!

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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E-bmw said:
Unfortunately the answer will be the same as it is not possible for them to remove data from DVLA database once input via the MOT system.
I want the email so I can show the prospective buyer that the advisory on the MOT was an error

alidude

Original Poster:

14 posts

178 months

Thursday 11th April
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eliot said:
alidude said:
Took my F10 M5 for an MOT at a BMW main dealer last September,
See there's your problem - it's just an open invite to find issues that they can easily and profitably repair.
I fully know that but I still take the car there for an MOT, what can I say, I like the coffee!!!

Swervin_Mervin

4,596 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th April
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E-bmw said:
alidude said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
I've a mileage discrepancy on my vehicle's history, as a result of an MOT tester's typo one year, so the mileage jumps 20k and then drops back down the year after. There's very little you can do about things like that unless you spot them at the time and have the evidence to put to the DVLA. Sadly I don't have any evidence so have to just suck it up.

In your case, however, they definitely can do something about it, they just don't want to be arsed. All it would take is a simple bit of correspondence on headed communication to the DVLA.
Once I get an email from them explaining their f**k up I'm going to take the matter further up the food chain, Inchscape are the franchise holder
Unfortunately the answer will be the same as it is not possible for them to remove data from DVLA database once input via the MOT system.
The DVLA can change the data, but require suitable evidence to do so. Which the dealership can provide.