BMW 630i coolant issues

BMW 630i coolant issues

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Lee630i

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126 posts

33 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Hi all

Continuing my form with having coolant issues on every used car I have ever owned, my latest project is baffling me.

My 630i started throwing up coolant back out the over flow about 6 months ago, with it I had a water pump speed deviation code and this tied in with the electric water pump on its way out. The car never over heated though.

Without delay I had a new electric water pump and stat fitted, driven by the fear of it failing completely.

The car probably went a few weeks after without using to much coolant, the water pump speed deviation code has never returned, but after a while I have found myself in the habit of topping it up every couple of days again. The car never over heats, so surely the pump must be working? But you can clearly see dried coolant round the rim of the vessel and assuming its going out the over flow hole.

Any ideas on what could still be causing the escape of coolant out the over flow after a new pump and stat?

Marc p

1,097 posts

149 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Do you have any oil in coolant contamination(or vice versa)? As a failing oil filter housing can cause this.

Otherwise it’s due to too much pressure, which will usually be be caused by either the coolant overheating(maybe not bled correctly?) or a failed head gasket. My first point of call would be to do a sniff test. Although head gasket failures are very rare as generally you’d need to overheat the engine for at least 5-10 minutes to cause, they do happen.

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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Thanks Marc, no nothing obvious. Oil filter housing has been done less than a year ago. Wondering if I could try the auto bleed process and see if there is some air in there.

Collectingbrass

2,394 posts

202 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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How is the bottom of the radiator? Straight & true or starting to warp?

Lee630i

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126 posts

33 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Collectingbrass said:
How is the bottom of the radiator? Straight & true or starting to warp?
I will check that out, is that the forward most facing rad, I.e you can see it through the front bumper?

The AC condenser was done last year, but I assume that's behind the rad? If so I will check that in the day light.

Did the secret menu tonight to monitor the water temperature on the way home, temp didnt fo any higher than picturede

Lee630i

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126 posts

33 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Sorry crap pic and spell check lost the plot. Temp didn't go any higher than 97c

Marc p

1,097 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Is it definitely loosing coolant from the cap? I say this as people spill coolant when filling up all the time. Or is it a case of you having topped it up, cleaned the expansion tank and then noticed coolant stains over the top of the tank and around the cap?

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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Yes exactly that, after cleaning coolant staines around the rim i will check a few days later and they are back. I may also be obsessing a bit aswell, I have never trusted the float.

Marc p

1,097 posts

149 months

Tuesday 10th January 2023
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So a few more questions biggrin

Do you get a low coolant warning or just topping up after checking coolant levels?

Secondly, it may sound basic, but are you following the max coolant level diagram/instruction that is printed on the top of the expansion tank? Only reason I say this is because I’ve worked on many BMs, the float position is different for various models/engines, so I always have to double check the diagram.

I-am-the-reverend

932 posts

42 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Weak rad cap?

Quavers

217 posts

84 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I replaced the expansion tank on my e60 545 due to a broken float. There was also evidence of coolant escaping past the cap.
As soon as I replaced it one of the small hoses popped. The new cap was holding pressure - unlike the old one.

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Marc p said:
So a few more questions biggrin

Do you get a low coolant warning or just topping up after checking coolant levels?

Never left it to go to the light, just keep topping up

Secondly, it may sound basic, but are you following the max coolant level diagram/instruction that is printed on the top of the expansion tank? Only reason I say this is because I’ve worked on many BMs, the float position is different for various models/engines, so I always have to double check the diagram.
Yes following the diagram on the side of the vessel,

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Quavers said:
I replaced the expansion tank on my e60 545 due to a broken float. There was also evidence of coolant escaping past the cap.
As soon as I replaced it one of the small hoses popped. The new cap was holding pressure - unlike the old one.
Sounds feasible, I have ordered a new cap just to rule that out. Thanks all, will report back. I'm daily driving it again so should see the results quite quickly.

njw1

2,244 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th January 2023
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I-am-the-reverend said:
Weak rad cap?
I had an e39 540i that was losing coolant, a new cap cured it.

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Well, as an update the car showed me what was wrong in the end. The radiator split and dumped everything in the car park, still trying to get it recovered.

Still unsure if a failing radiator would have caused coolant to back up? Oh well, can't really moan as the rad is stamped March 2008 so it's had a good innings.

g3org3y

21,117 posts

198 months

Monday 23rd January 2023
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Hope you can get it sorted easily. I suppose better in a car park than stranded on a random road while driving (with overheating risk).

Lee630i

Original Poster:

126 posts

33 months

Wednesday 25th January 2023
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Finally recovered from the car park!